
Shelf to Scale
Shelf to Scale is a podcast featuring conversations with the founders, operators, and industry leaders behind today’s growing consumer products.Each episode explores how brands expand distribution, navigate retail partne...
Insights from recent episode analysis
On the show
- Jim Kavanagh1 ep
- Sam Rose1 ep
- Matthew Kubick1 ep
Also: Kendall Kransdorf, Aamir Malkani, Miki Talebi, Rahim Velji, Yazeed Yasin, David Ngo, Autumn
Audience Interest
Podcast Focus
Publishing Consistency
Insights are generated by CastFox AI using publicly available data, episode content, and proprietary models.
Most discussed topics
Brands & references
Total monthly reach
Based on the show's feed history.
Built from
By chart position
- 🇳🇿New Zealand · Entrepreneurship#932.2K to 20K
- 🇭🇺HU · Entrepreneurship#175264 to 2.4K
- Per-Episode Audience
Est. listeners per new episode within ~30 days
2.5K to 23K🎙 ~2x weekly·23 episodes·Last published 2d ago - Monthly Reach
Unique listeners across all episodes (30 days)
5K to 45K🇺🇸71%🇳🇿26%🇭🇺3% - Active Followers
Loyal subscribers who consistently listen
2.8K to 25K
Market Insights
Platform Distribution
Reach across major podcast platforms, updated hourly
Total Followers
—
Total Plays
—
Total Reviews
—
* Data sourced directly from platform APIs and aggregated hourly across all major podcast directories.
| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10/22/26 | 16 Hours, Zero Chocolate: How Mindful Monk Got Into Whole Foods | Alice Grey waited 16 hours for chocolate to come out of a 20K machine. It never did.Here's how she fixed it, got into Whole Foods and 140 stores, and why her first hire tripled the business.Alice Grey is the founder of Mindful Monk, dark chocolate squares sweetened with monk fruit juice concentrate and sold in the fridge section. She started making them in her kitchen in 2018 while pregnant with her second daughter and managing gestational diabetes.Today Mindful Monk is in about 140 stores across Canada, Whole Foods is its number one store, and she just launched Cacao Blends, a single-serve hot chocolate line.Key takeaways:Whole Foods lists through category reviews. After approval it took another 6 to 8 months to hit shelves, so plan for over a year.If you make it in-house, retailers like Whole Foods and Sobeys will ask for a food safety audit. Get a consultant or lean on founder friends. Alice passed her first one with 94%.Co-packers wanted her to swap ingredients, so she kept her chocolate in-house. For hot chocolate she found a co-man who used her ingredients.Vetting a co-man: price, MOQs, which brands they've worked with, and your gut.Your first hire should take over the task eating most of your time that you can train someone to do. For Alice that was production.Find Mindful Monk:Website: https://mindfulmonk.co/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmonkchocolate | 33m 16s | ||||||
| 10/15/26 | The $200 Amazon Test Every CPG Founder Should Run First | There’s a $200 Amazon program that gets 30 brutally honest strangers to review your product before you commit to a manufacturer’s MOQs.Most founders have never heard of it used this way.Shahnawaz Sheikh swears by it, and his own brand went from a website contact-form inquiry to every SKU in every Goodness Me store.Shahnawaz Sheikh built and exited Mommy Knows Best to a venture capital firm, spent a year chasing generative AI, and came back to brand building with Canadian Grace, a Canadian-made beauty oil brand (argan from UNESCO biosphere reserves in Morocco, marula from Namibia, batana from Honduras). He spent the first six months online only, tracked return rate instead of retention, and walked into retail buyer meetings, including Walmart Canada, with a folder of proof points instead of a pitch. Canadian Grace is now heading for 200+ stores across the GTA and expanding its travel retail placement from Toronto to Vancouver and Calgary. If you’re a CPG or beauty founder deciding between online and retail, Canada and the US, or wondering how to get a retailer to come to you, this is the playbook.GUESTShahnawaz Sheikh, Canadian GraceLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shahnawaz-sheikh-b692401a/Website: https://canadiangrace.ca/SHELF TO SCALEWeekly conversations with CPG and FMCG founders on distribution, retail and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani. | 35m 31s | ||||||
| 10/2/26 | Ethnic Grocers Lose $210K a Year Per Store. Here's Why | Being in Whole Foods won't get your product into an ethnic grocery store.Aaqib Usmani, CEO at Tasteport, explains what actually does.How do CPG brands sell to ethnic and independent grocers, and why are those stores losing $210K in profit a year per location?Aaqib works with the international grocers that serve North America's Asian, Latin and African communities, and his platform holds a catalog of over 15,000 SKUs. In this conversation he breaks down how CPG founders should approach ethnic grocery stores: why trust beats sales stats, why store-by-store visits beat Zoom calls, why real customer content outperforms influencer content. He also shares the number behind his business: by his estimate, cultural grocers lose about $210,000 in profit per location every year to expiry, redundant labor and poor product discovery. If you are a CPG or FMCG founder trying to get on shelf in independent and specialty grocery, this is the playbook.GUESTAaqib Usmani, TasteportLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaqibusmani/Website: https://tasteport.com/SHELF TO SCALEWeekly conversations with CPG and FMCG founders on distribution, retail and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani.#CPG #EthnicGrocery #RetailDistribution | 31m 13s | ||||||
| 9/25/26 | He Quit Goldman Sachs to Make Snacks From Food Waste | Yousuf Ahmed left Goldman Sachs to turn leftover oat milk pulp and corn grits into a better-for-you Cheetos.Why did his first product, a $15 cookie sandwich, have to die before B-Sides could work?B-Sides makes upcycled crunch puffs from food manufacturing byproducts that would otherwise be thrown out. Before that, Yousuf launched a premium pastry line in 25 NYC locations. He calls it "very expensive market research." He then spent around $30K formulating a snack puff, hit 40% organic reorder rates with zero retention marketing, and chose a Canadian co-man because the lowest US MOQ was 50,000 lbs versus 5,000 lbs in Canada. If you're building a snack brand and trying to get unit economics, positioning, and your first production run right, this one's for you.GUESTYousuf Ahmed, Founder of B-SidesEmail: [email protected]: https://www.enjoybsides.com/SHELF TO SCALEWeekly conversations with CPG and FMCG founders on distribution, retail, and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani | 32m 56s | ||||||
| 9/10/26 | CPG distributionretail strategy+4 | Jim Kavanagh | SobeysMetro+1 | CanadaUS | listing feecategory manager+5 | — | 37m 45s | ||
| 9/3/26 | CPGFMCG+3 | Sam Rose | Rosebud Ice CreamWhole Foods | DenverLongmont | ice creampackaging+6 | — | 27m 33s | ||
| 8/27/26 | in-store demosCPG marketing+4 | Matthew Kubick | Local Demo ServiceLaird Superfoods+2 | HonoluluCostco+2 | in-store demosCPG+5 | — | 35m 40s | ||
| 8/20/26 | building in publicfood brand+3 | Kendall Kransdorf | CottoFairway Market+3 | New York | CottoKendall Kransdorf+5 | — | 33m 40s | ||
| 8/6/26 | CPG distributionplant-based protein+3 | Aamir Malkani | PlantUpSobeys+7 | CanadaToronto | PlantUpAamir Malkani+5 | — | 37m 29s | ||
| 7/30/26 | CPG distributionself-manufacturing+4 | Miki Talebi | ooméWhole Foods+3 | — | smoked tofuCPG+5 | — | 27m 17s | ||
Want analysis for the episodes below?Free for Pro Submit a request, we'll have your selected episodes analyzed within an hour. Free, at no cost to you, for Pro users. | |||||||||
| 7/23/26 | 3PL selectionecommerce logistics+3 | Rahim Velji | Get Set Prep | TorontoCanada+1 | 3PLfulfillment+5 | — | 36m 28s | ||
| 7/16/26 | entrepreneurshipCPG distribution+3 | Yazeed Yasin | Nanopops 4.0NanaShake+1 | Toronto | ice creamNanaShake+5 | — | 40m 42s | ||
| 7/9/26 | CPG brand scalingretail distribution+3 | David Ngo | Nam FruitsIGA+2 | — | CPGretail+5 | — | 41m 48s | ||
| 7/2/26 | beverage pricingCPG brand strategies+4 | Autumn | GnusanteNewbies+3 | — | beverage brandspricing strategy+6 | — | 40m 56s | ||
| 6/25/26 | From 0 to 1,500 Stores With Cottage Cheese Ice Cream | He made ice cream out of cottage cheese. It's now headed for 1,500 stores.How do you build a frozen category that didn't exist, then get Sprouts, Whole Foods, and a 500-store retail win in your first year?Smear Case is the first and only frozen cottage cheese ice cream.Half the fat, half the calories, and the most protein of any pint on the shelf. Joe coined and trademarked the word "Froco" before he'd sold a single unit, won the Albertsons Innovation Launchpad pitch at Expo West (and 500 stores with it), and is closing in on 1,500 doors nationwide. If you're a CPG founder trying to create a category instead of fighting for shelf space in an existing one, this conversation is the playbook.GUESTJoe Rotondo - Smear CaseLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephrrotondo/Website: https://smearcase.com/SHELF TO SCALEWeekly conversations with CPG and FMCG founders on distribution, retail, and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani | Silvertop Trading. | 30m 42s | ||||||
| 6/18/26 | He Lost 1,500 Stores Overnight. Here's What He Did Next. | Arshad Bahl built Amrita Health Foods into 1,500 stores across Whole Foods, Sprouts, and Wegmans. Then lost all of it overnight to a product recall. What came next changed how he thinks about everything.In this episode:- Why a product recall was actually the best thing that happened to Arshad's business- The real role of distributors in your supply chain and why it's not what most founders think- How he built his own manufacturing facility for $150,000 using eBay and Facebook Marketplace- Why $10M in revenue at 15% margin beats $100M at 3% and the math behind staying small- What Peter Rahal, the Tom's Shoes founder, and dozens of other big exits have in commonArshad has been in CPG for over a decade — ran co-packers, ran his own factory, ran DTC, ran retail. He's one of the few founders in the space who has operated at every level of the value chain. This conversation is not about inspiration. It's about the structural decisions that actually determine whether a food brand survives.Guest links:- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arshad-bahl-61206373/- Website: https://www.amritahealthfoods.com/Shelf to Scale is a weekly podcast for CPG and FMCG founders navigating distribution, retail, and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani. | 36m 34s | ||||||
| 6/11/26 | The Freezer Aisle Is The Hardest Shelf In Retail. Here's How To Get In | Stush Patty | The buyer conversation most CPG founders get completely wrong — and what to say instead.Opal Rowe started Stush Patty during COVID, delivering hot patties out of her car. Today she's in Whole Foods, RABBA, and four provinces across Canada. In this episode, she breaks down exactly how she got there: two rejections from RABBA before getting inlanding Whole Foods at her very first trade showthe co-packing nightmare behind a product that looks simple.the one mindset shift that changed how she talks to buyers.If you're building a frozen CPG brand or any retail brand, this is the episode.Guest: Opal Rowe, Founder of Stush PattyWebsite: https://stushpatties.com/Instagram: @stushpattyNew episodes every week.Subscribe for conversations with CPG founders on distribution, retail and the real mechanics of scaling a physical product brand. | 31m 50s | ||||||
| 6/4/26 | A 26-Year China Veteran's Complete Guide to Asia Sourcing | Paul Weedman has spent 26 years on the ground in Shenzhen sourcing products for brands from the West. He says 60–80% of Vietnam factory inputs still come from China.So what is China + 1 actually solving?In this episode, Paul breaks downthe manufacturing ecosystem concept — why a factory is the smallest part of the supply chainwhy industrial clusters make China nearly impossible to replicatewhat actually happens when a brand finds a "good factory" and thinks the hard part is over. He also explains the human side of sourcing: why AI can teach you everything and still get you burned, why a translator is the wrong hire, and how a $10M business still comes down to two people walking a street in Shenzhen and sharing a beer.GUESTPaul Weedman — Victure GroupLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-weedman/Website: www.victuregroup.comSHELF TO SCALEWeekly conversations with CPG and FMCG founders on distribution, retail,and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani | 38m 23s | ||||||
| 5/28/26 | A Distributor Blocked Her For Years. She's Still Here. They Aren't. Here's How | Miriam built Delicious Without Gluten from her basement to coast-to-coast distribution, an 8-year Boston Pizza contract, and a Wegmans pretzel that their own buyers couldn't tell was gluten-free.In this episode:Why the word "gluten-free" killed her Costco demo sales (and what she said instead)How a distributor exclusivity blocked her from Metro for years, and why she's still standing while that competitor isn'tThe pivot from retail to food service that saved her business after COVIDThe Wegmans private-label deal that almost died when Trump's tariffs hitThe one financial mistake she made on day one that cost her 13 years of clean dataMiriam started in fashion, moved into packaging design for food importers, then opened a peanut-free bakery for her daughter. When her two kids were diagnosed with celiac, she rebuilt everything from scratch. The factory had to have drains in the floor and lockers outside the production room. The certification took six months. The pretzel that pulled her into retail came from a kitchen experiment her kids actually wanted to eat. If you're a CPG founder who has been told the same retail playbook for years, this episode is the other side of the argument.Guest links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/miriampearl/Website: https://www.deliciouswithout.com/Shelf to Scale is a weekly podcast for CPG and FMCG founders navigating distribution, retail, and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani. | 38m 35s | ||||||
| 5/21/26 | He Went From Zero to Sold Out on Amazon in 4 Months | Peanut butter is down 30% a year. Pistachio butter is up 500%.Utsab Roychowdhury and his partner quit investment banking to bet on the gap.In four months he went from a blender in his New York apartment to live on Amazon. Two-person team. No mass retail. $20 a jar. Sold out for two months straight. This conversation breaks down the exact moves: how he found a co-packer in 20 callswhy he turned down big retail on purposethe pricing rule that keeps his margins alive while other CPG founders bleed out at the shelf.GUESTUtsab Roychowdhury - Stesh Pistachio ButterLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/utsab-roychowdhury/Website: https://steshbutter.com/SHELF TO SCALEWeekly conversations with CPG and FMCG founders on distribution, retail, and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani | 35m 44s | ||||||
| 5/14/26 | The Laziest Way to Make UGC Ads in 2026 (Zero Creators) | David, 21 years old, just built three full UGC ad campaigns for Olipop, Feastables, and Rhode in under an hour. No creators. No studio. Just one product image and an AI prompt.In this episode, you will learn:Why the $150 to $500 UGC creator model is officially deadThe Pixar trend that's flipping AI ad strategy on its head (it works because it doesn't try to look real)How Petco Labs is running 100% AI ads at scale, right nowThe "context rule" that's the difference between a viral ad and a broken oneThe 13 formats every physical product brand should be testingWhy one operator with AI now does the job of tenDavid, founder of StarPop AI, walks through live demos of Feastables Mr Beast bar ASMR ads, Olipop fridge-grab voiceovers, and Rhode lip balm cinematics, then breaks down a Petco Labs ad where every single frame was AI generated. If you sell a physical product and you're still paying $5,000 to test 10 ad hooks, this is the episode that ends that math.Guest links:David Ishag, co-founder of StarPop AITry Starpop - https://starpop.ai/?via=shelftoscaleLinks that David mentioned on the episodeClaude Prompting System YT video - https://youtu.be/f83UH-qmNUs?si=LQQN3jzw3cDjmsKqClaude Agent - https://starpop.ai/claude-agentShelf to Scale is a weekly podcast for CPG and FMCG founders navigating distribution, retail, and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani. | 50m 12s | ||||||
| 5/7/26 | His Hot Sauce Exploded. Then He SOLD 100,000 BOTTLES. Here's How | A customer opened a bottle of Lost in the Sauce and it exploded. Fresh mangoes were fermenting inside sealed glass. Karthy pulled every bottle, went back to the drawing board, and rebuilt. Eight years later, he's sold over 100,000 bottles across retail, DTC, and farmers markets in Canada.Karthy started making sauce in 2017 after his best friend Brandon passed away. Brandon's Trinidadian father taught him the recipe. Blank bottles, e-transfers, cash sales to friends. Then retailers came calling. Then TJX wanted 20x his production volume in a single order. That forced him to scale from kitchen blenders to a HACCP-certified co-packer, and nearly broke the business in the process. This conversation covers the real math behind retail margins, every hidden cost most CPG founders miss, and why Karthy believes revenue without profit is the fastest way to kill your brand.GUESTKarthy Subramaniam - Lost in the Sauce (LITS)Instagram: @litssauceWebsite: https://lostinthesauce.ca/SHELF TO SCALEWeekly conversations with CPG and FMCG founders on distribution, retail, and scaling.Hosted by Devesh Tilokani | 45m 12s | ||||||
| 4/30/26 | Astronauts on ARTEMIS II ate his cereal brand. Here is how he did it... | Daniel Carson almost deleted the email that put his cereal on the Artemis II mission.The Canadian Space Agency picked Goldy's strawberry lavender flavor and orders started pinging in during live TV interviews.This episode covers the real mechanics behind getting from a commercial kitchen to 700+ retail doors and a Walmart launch in August 2026. Daniel breaks down the CPG pricing chain most founders don't understand until they're already losing marginwhy getting INTO Sobeys was the easy partthe co-founder dynamic that lets him and his best friend Schreiber tell each other to shut up with zero ego. If you're building a consumer brand and trying to figure out what comes after the first listing, this one matters.GUEST Daniel Carson - Goldy'sWebsite: https://goldys.ca/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goldysjustrightTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@goldysjustrightSHELF TO SCALEWeekly conversations with CPG and FMCG founders on distribution, retail, and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani 00:00 — The email we thought was spam (from the Canadian Space Agency)06:24 — Running events at Drake's house every two weeks08:36 — The David's Tea of oatmeal that almost existed14:14 — Mixing oatmeal in a commercial kitchen until 2 AM17:41 — How Sobeys said yes before we'd even launched19:27 — The pricing mistake that kills most CPG brands34:20 — Watching our cereal launch into space39:42 — Why Walmart in August is the real test45:25 — The one thing I'd tell myself on day one | 46m 44s | ||||||
| 4/23/26 | She Built a Popcorn Brand From Prison. Now in 4,500+ Stores Across Canada | She walked out of a federal prison with no money, no manufacturer, and no retail relationships. Today Comeback Snacks is in 4,500+ stores across Canada and Walmart is next.Emily O'Brien built the entire foundation of her brand from inside Grand Valley Institution for Women in Kitchener. No internet. No laptop. Just handwritten letters, a prison library, and a business partner mailing her logo sketches through the post.In this conversation, Emily breaks down the full journey: from popping flavoured kernels in a prison kitchen, to walking cold into a Mississauga factory with no appointment and leaving with a manufacturer, to navigating her first Sobeys listing and learning that getting on the shelf is only half the battle.She also covers why she renamed the brand from Cons and Kernelshow tariffs killed their US business overnightthe brand licensing deal she stumbled into through a podcast appearancewhy employees with criminal records often outperform those without — backed by research.4,500 stores. Built from a mailbox and a library card.Shelf to Scale is a weekly podcast for CPG and FMCG founders navigating distribution, retail, and scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani. Comeback Snacks Instagram - @comebacksnacksEmily's Instagram - @emz.obrienWebsite - https://comebacksnacks.com/ | 22m 09s | ||||||
| 4/16/26 | He Sold 12,000,000 DUBAI CHOCOLATE Bars and Outsold Cadbury in the UK | For a month in 2025, a Dubai chocolate brand outsold Cadbury Dairy Milk in the UK . They launched just months earlier, with nine flavours, zero retailhistory, and a founder who'd failed six times before getting here.In this episode, we discuss: The distributor strategy that contradicts everything the big FMCG brands taught him and why it got Meltz to 48 countries fasterWhat a signed distribution agreement actually signals about the person across the table (it's not what most founders think)The story of a founder who handed over North and South America before selling a single unit and the 16 months he'll never get backWhy building a premium product isn't enough — and the brutal lesson six failed brands finally taught himThe exact threshold that told Mohit it was time to stop contract manufacturing and buy the factory outrightMohit Mirpuri spent 15 years in FMCG trading before building Meltz — a Dubai chocolate brand now in 48 countries with 12 million bars sold and 62 SKUs in its portfolio. He launched in four months, hit 200,000 bars a week in the UK alone, and reached the 12 million bar milestone by February 2025. This episode is the unfiltered version of how that happened — andwhat almost stopped it.Guest links:- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meltz_dubai/- Website: https://meltzdubai.com/Shelf to Scale is a weekly podcast for consumer brand founders navigating distribution, retail, and international scaling. Hosted by Devesh Tilokani. | 34m 18s | ||||||
Showing 25 of 23
Pitch Fit is a Pro feature
See how bookable this show is for guests, which brands already advertise, the per-episode ad value, and the best-fit guest and sponsor profile. The numbers are blurred on the free plan.
How readily this show books outside guests like you.
How proven this show is for host-read sponsorships.
For Guests
ProFor Advertisers
ProUpgrade to Pro to unlock guest cadence, sponsor categories, fit scores, and per-episode ad value for this show.
Chart history for Shelf to Scale
Peaked at #93 in New Zealand, currently #93 in New Zealand.
| Market | Genre | Peak | Current | Trend |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| New Zealand | — | #93 | #93 | — |
| HU | — | #175 | #175 | — |
Chart Positions
2 placements across 2 markets.
Chart Positions
2 placements across 2 markets.