
The Next Level
by The Bulwark
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1114: Secret Podcast: Trump's 2026 Message: Everything's Fine!
Sep 11, 2026
16m 48s
1113: Trump’s Imaginary Presidency Is Going Just Great
Sep 8, 2026
50m 30s
1112: Secret Podcast: The Senators Who Suck
Sep 4, 2026
21m 41s
1111: Ken Paxton Is Running One of the Worst Campaigns in America
Sep 1, 2026
57m 37s
1110: Secret Podcast: Mark Cuban Thinks He Could Run as a Republican. Tim Has Some Bad News.
Aug 28, 2026
30m 48s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 9/11/26 | 1114: Secret Podcast: Trump's 2026 Message: Everything's Fine! | The Secret Podcast is a special bonus just for paid members of The Bulwark. If you like this preview, become a member at thebulwark.com, on YouTube, or through Apple Podcasts.JVL and Bill Kristol look at the increasingly messy fight to succeed Trump, from JD Vance and Don Jr. to Tucker Carlson, as Trump keeps the possibility of a third term hanging over the party. Plus, the war with Iran is getting worse, Pete Hegseth’s damage to the military is becoming harder to ignore, and 25 years after 9/11, they consider the unsettling question of what terrorism can set in motion long after an attack is over.Sarah, Tim, Sam and JVL are coming to South Carolina, North Carolina, and Atlanta in October for Bulwark LIVE. We’re bringing lots of friends.Tickets are on sale now: https://thebulwark.com/events | 16m 48s | ||||||
| 9/8/26 | 1113: Trump’s Imaginary Presidency Is Going Just Great | Tim, Sarah, and JVL discuss Trump's Labor Day Weekend with his favorite person, Corey Lewandowski's possible ‘light extortion,’ and whether Trumpworld will circle the wagons around him. Plus: why the GOP's midterm convention shows Trump losing his fastball, ABC News's bizarre framing of Rudy Giuliani's Islamophobic comments about Zohran Mamdani, and John Fetterman's total lack of interest in doing the job of a U.S. senator.Visit https://Wildgrain.com/THENEXTLEVEL to get $30 off your first box, plus free croissants for life.Go to https://GetSoul.com and use the code THENEXTLEVEL for 30% off your order.Head to https://3DayBlinds.com/THENEXTLEVEL for a buy one get one 50% off deal on custom blinds, shades, and drapery.Get your tickets for The Bulwark's Good Fight Tour this October, coming to Charlotte, Columbia, and Atlanta, with special guest Pete Buttigieg joining us in Charlotte. | 50m 30s | ||||||
| 9/4/26 | 1112: Secret Podcast: The Senators Who Suck | Today Sarah and JVL try to figure out who’s worse: John Fetterman or Susan Collins. (Give us your answer in the comments.) Also, the Big Orange Arch is coming. And we chew over Doug Sosnik’s recommendations for the Democratic party. It’s a big show.Weight Loss by Hims offers access to affordable FDA-approved GLP-1 medications, including the Wegovy® pill and Wegovy® pen, with personalized treatment plans and ongoing support. Get started at https://www.hims.com/thenextlevelPlus: it’s almost Book Week!Don’t let Teddy Cancun and High Life Clarence win. Order a copy of Sarah’s book now. (If you haven’t already, I mean.)How to Eat an Elephant drops on Tuesday and the Best Friends really want to get it to #1 on the NYT best seller list. To do that, we have to unseat... a biography of Clarence Thomas by Ted Effing Cruz.Buy it on Bookshop.org: https://bookshop.org/p/books/how-to-eat-an-elephant-one-voter-at-a-time-sarah-longwell/6a0996cb43d2ef5b?ean=9781250464170&bkshp-astro=tBuy it on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/How-Eat-Elephant-Voter-Time/dp/125046417XBecome a Bulwark member to keep watching the full conversation, plus get access to all our members-only shows and segments.Show notes:See Bill Kristol and Doug Sosnik’s conversation: https://conversationswithbillkristol.org/conversation/doug-sosnik-on-two-very-different-elections-2026-and-2028/ | 21m 41s | ||||||
| 9/1/26 | 1111: Ken Paxton Is Running One of the Worst Campaigns in America | Tim, Sarah, and JVL discuss the U.S. Supreme Court letting Trump’s ballroom go ahead (for now), why JVL thinks John Roberts is the Susan Collins of the Supreme Court, and whether Sarah is warming up to tearing down the ballroom in 2029. Plus: Trump says Kristen Welker should be punished for pointing out that his endorsed candidates are losing more often, and JVL wonders whether Republicans will have to be an anti-Canada party now. Later: The gang discusses Bari Weiss’s kinda racist headline about Abdul El-Sayed’s past tweets, why elected Republicans around the country (but especially Ken Paxton) are feeling depressed about their midterm prospects, and an absolutely wild story about a Florida congressional candidates in today’s Morning Shots.Right now, save up to 30% on mattresses and up to 35% on everything else when you go to https://Casper.com. Make today a good day, and get yourself some Soul gummies. Go to https://GetSoul.com and use the code THENEXTLEVEL.If you want more of Tim, Sarah, and JVL doing what they do here—looking past the daily Trump spectacle to figure out what survives him, where Democrats have openings, and what the next political era might actually look like—become a Bulwark member and support The Next Level.Show links:Read JVL’s Triad (https://www.thebulwark.com/p/lake-america-and-the-dogma-of-trumpism)Read Andrew Egger’s Morning Shots (https://www.thebulwark.com/p/we-found-her-the-most-absurd-general-election-candidate-te-brown-illinois-florida-congress-fraud-primary-election-putin-whale-orca-polar-bear-russia-ukraine) | 57m 37s | ||||||
| 8/28/26 | 1110: Secret Podcast: Mark Cuban Thinks He Could Run as a Republican. Tim Has Some Bad News. | Full episodes of The Secret Podcast are a special perk just for paid members of the Bulwark. We put almost every video out for free, because we don't think you can save the country from behind a paywall. This is one of the rare things we do reserve just for members. Come ride with us.- Full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/py-SBnizZ3U- Full episode on Substack: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/mark-cuban-thinks-he-could-run-asJVL is out this week, so Tim and Sarah discuss Mark Cuban’s comments that he could run for president as a Republican (and why Tim isn’t buying it), and Sarah’s conversation with the New York Times discussing her book, and what Democratic voters REALLY want right now. They also discuss the race Rob Sand is running for governor in Iowa. Behind the paywall: Kamala Harris’s 2028 strategy, Hasan Piker discourse, and a fun mailbag segment.Show notes:Read Sarah's conversation with the New York Times:https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/28/opinion/democrats-fighters-trump-republicans.htmlCome hang with the gang—Sarah, Tim, JVL, Sam and friends—during our Bulwark LIVE: Good Fight Tour this October. Tickets are on sale now at: https://thebulwark.com/EventsLet's be together. | 30m 48s | ||||||
| 8/25/26 | 1109: All MAGA Media Can Talk About Now is Trans Sports | Tim, Sarah, and JVL are back together for a JAM-PACKED show. They discuss:-Dolly Parton's passing and her legacy.-America's war (not the Iran war, our trade war with Canada), and why the rest of the world can't count on American anymore--even if Democrats win in 2028.-Sarah's Focus Group Podcast episode from Georgia--which Tim found pleasant (for once).-The South Carolina primary runoff, and whether having Donald Trump's endorsement is enough to put a political novice in the Senate.-The first U.S. measles deaths of the year in Pennsylvania.-Does the Trump administration want to demolish the Kennedy Center? Do WE want them to?-Why MAGA media is talking about the WNBA and trans issues so much.-Finally: They discuss JVL's Monday Triad about Trump's completely crazy relationship with Natalie Harp.Read JVL's TriadGet your tickets for The Bulwark's Good Fight Tour this October, coming to Charlotte, Columbia, and Atlanta.Go to https://zbiotics.com/nextlevel and use NEXTLEVEL at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics.For a limited time, get 60% off your order from Tempo at https://TempoMeals.com/THENEXTLEVEL. | 1h 15m 07s | ||||||
| 8/22/26 | 1108: Secret Podcast: Is Jon Ossoff the One We’ve Been Waiting For? | The Secret Podcast with JVL and Sarah is exclusively for paid members of the Bulwark on YouTube, Substack and Apple Podcasts.---Sarah and JVL did a BIG show today. Sample awesome:Sen. Darlene Graham says that voters in South Carolina don’t care about Taiwan—they care about boys playing girls sports.Spoiler: There are exactly zero (0) boys in South Carolina playing girls sports.Top CIA analyst Julia Curlee served Trump, Biden, and then Trump again honorably. Then she was fired because some MAGA influencers discovered she was trans.What duty do civil servants owe the country which elected Trump for the second time?Is Jon Ossoff the one we’ve been waiting for? Sarah has him in her Big Four. And you’ll never guess who the other three are.People hate Data Centers. So where is the juice for Democrats?JVL can’t stop/won’t stop beating on tankies and greens.And the birth of a new feature: Pickleball talk!We want to hear from you about any/all of this. Let’s ride.Sarah, Tim, Sam and JVL are coming to South Carolina, North Carolina, and Atlanta in October for Bulwark LIVE. We’re bringing lots of friends.Tickets are on sale now: https://thebulwark.com/eventsOur shows have a habit of selling out. Don’t wait to grab your seats. | 23m 04s | ||||||
| 8/18/26 | 1107: Melania May Be Behind MAGA’s Natalie Harp Freakout | Tim, JVL, and Andrew Egger discuss:-(Yet another) story of a former Trump voter seeing a loved one run into the immigration policies he voted for.-The faux outrage from MAGA-world at Sen. Jon Ossoff pointing out that Donald Trump and Natalie Harp travel together a lot.-Karoline Leavitt leaving the White House, and who might come next.-The Florida primary, and how Trump's hand-picked candidate MIGHT fumble the state away this fall.-Pete Hegseth traveling to Iowa. Is HE running?-Andrew breaks down the latest weird trend on right wing twitter: Postpartum Depression truthers.-Tim welcomes Nancy Mace to the YouTube content game.For Bulwark+ Subscribers: The pre-sale for this fall’s Good Fight tour is ON. We’re heading to Charlotte, Columbia, and Atlanta in October. Get your tickets HERE, or first, become a subscriber HERE.Make laundry day the best day of the week! Get 20% off your entire order @LaundrySauce with code THENEXTLEVEL at https://laundrysauce.com/THENEXTLEVEL #laundrysaucepodSleep cooler this summer with Boll & Branch. Get 15% off your first order plus free shipping at https://BollandBranch.com/NEXTLEVEL with code nextlevel. | 1h 07m 04s | ||||||
| 8/15/26 | 1106: Secret Podcast: American Stasi | Full episodes of The Secret Podcast are available only to paid members of The Bulwark. You can join on Substack, YouTube or Apple Podcasts!Lots of stuff this week.(1) There are still balcony seats left for the Best Friends Show in NYC on September 8. Come sell out the 92nd Street Y with us! You can get tickets here.If we sell this show out, JVL will do something nuts.(2) Sarah, Tim, Sam and I are coming to South Carolina, North Carolina, and Atlanta in October. We’re bringing friends. Tickets go on sale August 21, but Bulwark+ members get access to an exclusive presale on August 18—so join!(3) Then there’s the news: Trump is trying to put his name on the Kennedy Center again. Grandpa is so thirsty. Karoline Leavitt is taking her talent for baldfaced lying to the private sector. Who will be the lucky news organization to buy the privilege of having her lie to its audience? And what lucky liar will inherit her spot behind the podium? JVL loses his mind over the revelation that after DHS agents murdered Alex Pretti, the federal government launched far-reaching investigations against . . . liberal activist groups in Minnesota. This story will take your hate-fire to 11. Sarah was always right about the Wisconsin Democratic primary. Why don’t progressives say a little prayer of thanksgiving for winning a big race in Minnesota with Peggy Flanagan while not having to defend Francesca Hong? Take the W. Also: JVL has some nice things to say about Bernie while Sarah is totally getting there on AOC. (4) And then there’s the feelings talk. JVL has a lot of them. About Flash and mortality and his gratitude to all of you guys.(Also: (5) We have news about Rebecca taking us home.)This isn’t an Instant Classic level show, but it’s a good one. Top quintile for sure. | 17m 43s | ||||||
| 8/12/26 | 1105: Tucker Carlson Learned the Most Dangerous Lesson From Donald Trump | Tim, Sarah, and JVL are BACK TOGETHER after a month apart. They discuss:-Bill Cassidy’s pathetic, weepy floor speech before casting the deciding vote to confirm Todd Blanche as Attorney General.-What Tucker Carlson is up to these days…from interviewing Hunter Biden, to a monologue that sounds a LOT like the prelude to a presidential campaign.-DSA-aligned Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate Francesca Hong, and the stakes of experimenting with a DSA-aligned candidate in a swing state like Wisconsin.-Democrats like AOC saying that ‘Woke 1 was crazy,’ and how much of an ‘apology’ Democrats owe for ‘Woke 1.’-Sarah is raring to talk about the WNBA and its growing role in America’s culture wars.Read JVL's criminally neglected Triad newsletter.Ready to reach your goals? Visit https://Hims.com/THENEXTLEVEL to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you.Make today a good day, and get yourself some Soul gummies. Go to https://GetSoul.com and use the code THENEXTLEVEL.Get free shipping and 365 day returns with Quince at https://Quince.com/THENEXTLEVEL. | 1h 10m 48s | ||||||
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| 8/7/26 | 1104: Secret Podcast: The GOAT Episode | Full episodes of The Secret Podcast are available exclusively to paid members of The Bulwark. Join on Substack, Apple Podcast or YouTube!JVL and Tim did a GIANT show this week. Uncanny Callista Gingrich. Thom Tillis publishes his burn book. Tucker’s running for president. Burrito discourse. And more! Seriously: Instant classic. This one goes in the vault.Read JVL’s Triad newsletter: https://www.thebulwark.com/s/thetriadGet $30 off your first order and free croissants for life at https://Wildgrain.com/THENEXTLEVEL. | 19m 43s | ||||||
| 8/5/26 | 1103: Michigan Senate Primary Becomes a Late-Night Nail-Biter | Sam joins Tim and JVL to discuss:-Live results from the (unexpectedly close) Michigan Senate primary, and discuss what an Abdul El-Sayed or Haley Stevens win would mean for November.-The horrifying child abuse allegations against Rep. Max Miller, and his disastrous CNN interview.-Trump's anger at Jeanine Pirro after she dropped vandalism charges related to the reflecting pool.-Todd Blanche advancing out of the Senate Judiciary Committee-Finally, they discuss JVL's triad about democratic socialists (meh) versus social democrats (better), and how Democrats can stop letting Republicans set the narrative of this election.The day always ends well with Casper. Right now save up to 20% on mattresses and up to 25% on everything else when you go to https://Casper.com. Get quality window treatments that fit your budget with 3 Day Blinds. Head to https://3dayblinds.com/THENEXTLEVEL for their buy one get one 50% off deal on custom blinds, shades, and drapery. | 1h 29m 37s | ||||||
| 7/31/26 | 1102: Secret Podcast: You Can See the Bush Line from Your House | Sarah and JVL have a It’s a super-sized, instant classic:The Trump administration is using ChatGPT for everything.Why are Cornyn and Tillis even bothering with their fake protest of Todd Blanche?The Dem Senate map is looking . . . possible?Trump has raised $800 million from “donors” since coming back to office.And JVL finally explains why he’s obsessed with 60 Minutes investigative reporter Ross Douthat.Plus: Emo JVL needs your advice in the comments!Ready to reach your goals? Visit https://hims.com/thenextlevel to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you.Full episodes of the Secret Podcast are available to paid members of the Bulwark through Substack, YouTube or Apple Podcasts. Come ride with us! | 23m 16s | ||||||
| 7/28/26 | 1101: The WHCD Walked Straight Into Trump’s Trap | Sarah, JVL, and Catherine Rampell discuss:- Mitch McConnell's SECOND proof of life photo, and what's really going on with him.- The White House Correspondents' Dinner do-over, Trump's comments about Kaitlan Collins, why anyone goes to it anymore, and how the whole thing seems to be playing into Trump's hands.- The drama inside the Democratic National Committee, and how (and whether) having a strong national party committee matters anymore.- The proposed new primary calendar for the 2028 Democratic primaries.- The final stretch of the Michigan Senate primary. | 1h 08m 37s | ||||||
| 7/24/26 | 1100: Secret Podcast: The Second Iran War? | Paid members of the Bulwark get access to FULL episodes of the Secret Podcast. You can join via Apple Podcasts, Substack and YouTube.Big show today: It’s the dawn of Streamer JVL? Plus: Some questions for Tom Homan about shooting January 6 insurrectionists; Haley Stevens and authenticity; and the Mitch McConnell conspiracy theory. Also, a conversation about raising good men.But the big topic is the Department of Defense suddenly removing the names of four dead soldiers from the Iran war casualty list because they were killed after Trump declared a ceasefire in April—because there are now apparently two distinct Iran wars. Even though neither of them is, for legal purposes, a “war.”This episode is sponsored by The New York Times. | 18m 35s | ||||||
| 7/21/26 | 1099: This Deranged New Campaign Ad Creeped Us Out! | Sarah, JVL, and Will Sommer (sitting in for Tim) discuss: Whether Laura Loomer is one of the adults in MAGA-land? I'm Ron Burgundy? The state of the Iran War. The ridiculous AI advertisement being run by a Ted Cruz-aligned outside group in Florida (and the whacky candidates in the ad). The unfolding special Republican primary for Senate in South Carolina The Michigan Senate race...and how all of the online conventional wisdom stacks up with reality. Get 30% off your entire order with Soul at https://GetSoul.com and use promo code THENEXTLEVEL.Get 15% off your order with Boll and Branch at https://BollandBranch.com/NEXTLEVEL. | 1h 02m 24s | ||||||
| 7/17/26 | Trump's election speechJD Vance+3 | Sam Stein | Joe RoganDemocrats+1 | — | TrumpJD Vance+6 | — | 27m 27s | ||
| 7/15/26 | ICE killingsTrump's foreign policy+3 | — | ICERepublican | — | ICETrump+5 | LaundrySauceTHENEXTLEVEL | 1h 05m 23s | ||
| 7/11/26 | TrumpNATO+4 | — | NATODemocratic party | — | TrumpNATO+5 | 3 Day BlindsTHENEXTLEVEL | 27m 28s | ||
| 7/8/26 | political storiesMitch McConnell+4 | Sam Stein | USMNT | MichiganMaine+1 | Mitch McConnellPlatner+5 | Decagon | 1h 19m 01s | ||
| 7/3/26 | GOP politicsbirthright citizenship+3 | Bill Kristol | The BulwarkICE | — | GOPTrump+4 | — | 31m 34s | ||
| 6/30/26 | Supreme Courtbirthright citizenship+4 | Andrew Egger | NPRDSA+1 | — | Supreme Courtbirthright citizenship+8 | SoulTHENEXTLEVEL | 1h 07m 25s | ||
| 6/27/26 | political choicesdemocracy+3 | Sarah Longwell | The BulwarkSecret Podcast | — | politicsdemocracy+5 | HimsTHENEXTLEVEL | 30m 11s | ||
| 6/24/26 | Iran policyTrump administration+5 | — | The Washington PostJonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman's new book | — | JD VanceIran+7 | Decagon | 1h 07m 59s | ||
| 6/20/26 | Iran war dealIsrael politics+4 | JD VanceRoss Douthat | NYTThe Bulwark | IranIsrael | Iran war dealIsrael+6 | — | 20m 12s | ||
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Chart history for The Next Level
Peaked at #27 in United States, currently #27 in United States.
| Market | Genre | Peak | Current | Trend |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| United States | — | #27 | #27 | — |
| Canada | — | #43 | #43 | — |
| Netherlands | — | #59 | #59 | — |
| Australia | — | #61 | #61 | — |
| PH | — | #63 | #63 | — |
| IS | — | #76 | #76 | — |
| PL | — | #77 | #77 | — |
| United States | — | #79 | #79 | — |
| SG | — | #79 | #79 | — |
| TH | — | #83 | #83 | — |
| KE | — | #87 | #87 | — |
| Finland | — | #96 | #96 | — |
| United Kingdom | — | #101 | #101 | — |
| AR | — | #107 | #107 | — |
| New Zealand | — | #120 | #120 | — |
| South Africa | — | #125 | #125 | — |
| GR | — | #136 | #136 | — |
| Norway | — | #141 | #141 | — |
| Canada | — | #145 | #145 | — |
| MY | — | #146 | #146 | — |
Chart Positions
30 placements across 28 markets.
Chart Positions
30 placements across 28 markets.