
How to build systems that match your ethics, with Jacki Hayes
From The Soap Box Podcast by Peta O'Brien-Day
December 10, 2025 · 36 min · Season 3 · Episode 3
About this episode
Peta O'Brien-Day interviews Jacki Hayes about building ethical systems for creative service businesses.
Today on the Soap Box, I’m talking to Jacki Hayes, a systems geek for creative service businesses and someone who’s quietly building a very different kind of company. Jacki helps creative service providers stop duct-taping their systems together and build businesses that actually work, with more ease, clarity and flexibility. In our conversation, Jacki makes a simple, slightly spicy point, the kind I like. Running a business is political, not party political, but human political. The way we p...
People in this episode
Host: Peta O'Brien-Day
Guest: Jacki Hayes
Topics covered
- business systems
- creative services
- ethics in business
- system building
- politics in business
Keywords
- business systems
- creative services
- ethics
- system building
- politics in business
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