The Sound Off Podcast

Matt Cundill and Dan Misener discuss the launch of the Bumper Dashboard, which offers a unified view of podcast metrics across platforms like Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. The Dashboard includes a new metric, the Bumper score, which measures the gap between file delivery and actual playback, helping shows understand their ad engagement. The score ranges from 0 to 200, with 100 being the median. They also touch on the limitations of download metrics and the need for better data to serve creators and advertisers. The conversation highlights the importance of accurate audience verification and the potential for new business models based on better data.Sign up at dashboard.wearebumper.com to try out the Bumper Dashboard yourself, and get some incredible insight into your podcast's growth and metrics. It's truly an awesome tool that every podcaster can benefit from.Create a Bumper Dashboard account or start a trial.Add your show inside the dashboard.Connect the data sources Bumper requests:Your podcast host (Captivate, Art19, Megaphone, Libsyn, etc.)Apple Podcasts ConnectSpotify for CreatorsYouTube Studio (if applicable)Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. All the things that went unsaid on the show.Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Julian Nieh is Julian on the Radio,and traces his radio career that’s from Washington, DC to major markets like Chicago, Seattle, Las Vegas, and the future. He recalls falling into radio through an internship, doing everything from promotions and street stunts to last‑minute board‑opping that led to his first on‑air shifts. Matt and Julian geek out on the magic of 90s radio and MTV, the emotional pull of that era’s music, and the power of creating anticipation and memorable moments for listeners.Julian reflects on influences like Elliot in the Morning, Donnie Simpson, and his time at B96 Chicago, where supportive local leadership let him take creative risks and win industry awards. The conversation digs into culture vs. corporate realities, the loneliness of modern radio, and why curiosity, empathy, and connection still matter more than polish. Matt & Julien also talked about the shifting impact of social media, podcasting, and sales acumen, and Julian’s search for a role that truly aligns. Check out his demo here.Also I mentioned that I would suggest a few conferences radio people could check out if they wanted to expand their horizons. I was going to just mention a couple but I forgot about a few of the obvious ones:Podcast Movement at SXSW: (FREE) Now has a presence there thanks to Bryan Barletta and Tom Webster's direction.VidCon: Video Creators galore.Twitchcon: You're gonna love RotterdamSocial Media Marketing World: You'll learn how to make prettier posts.Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. All the things that went unsaid on the show.Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:Megatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brion O'Brion is the radio in Lansing, Michigan on Power 96.5. A true veteran in urban and hip hop radio, Brion shared his radio story—from growing up in Virginia and spending time overseas, to discovering his love for radio with the legendary “Rap Attack” show on WRAP. We talked about the mentors who shaped his path, the competitive radio scenes in Orlando and St. Louis, and how setbacks taught him resilience and the importance of adaptability.Brion opened up about the changing landscape of radio, the impact of social media, and why connecting with audiences—both on air and online—is the key to radio's future as an influencer medium. (Yes I wrote that).He also gave candid advice to aspiring radio personalities while reflecting on his own family’s legacy of perseverance. Brion’s passion and honesty remind me why I love doing this show, and how much I miss radio events like the Conclave.Oh wait... did you know there is one more Conclave? Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. All the things that went unsaid on the show.Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:Megatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Traci DeForge is the founder of Produce Your Podcast and co‑founder of the Podcast Professionals Association—and unpacks her journey from radio prodigy to podcast entrepreneur. Traci shares how rapid consolidation in radio, a burnout moment in 2004, and a leap into business strategy led her to launch a broadcast‑quality podcast in 2016 that grew into a full‑service production agency. She said so before the recording started but she is audio first. Audio remains powerful (theater of the mind), video is useful for discovery but shouldn’t replace audio, and podcast SEO—especially detailed show descriptions—drives discoverability. Traci also stresses monetization through host‑led promotions, the value of guest appearances for visibility, and the legitimacy of archiving a show when its purpose has run its course. For podcasters seeking practical wins: update your show description, prioritize audio quality, and consider guest booking to amplify reach. Listen to the episode to the end and get all the excellent tips.Twice in this episode we mentioned the late Todd Cochrane. I put together a highlight of some of the great things he said on this show - in an episode I titled One Last Listen. Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. All the things that went unsaid on the show.Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data SolutionsMegatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.Podderapp: Where podcasters can get access to their advanced data dashboard here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The annual Christmas Chat with my good friend Terry Dimonte. This is the first time we recorded this together. My wife and I recently bought a home in Quebec about 10 minutes away from Terry's place - so now we can record these together. There's no video of us as I still need to rework parts of the studio.I made mention of a couple of articles from Fred Jacobs and Dave Beasing contrasting podcasting and radio... you can read those here. Also the episode regarding tourism was from a podcast called Forward Motion which I produce. The episode is here Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. All the things that went unsaid on the show.Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data SolutionsMegatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.Podderapp: Where podcasters can get access to their advanced data dashboard here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.