The Story Behind The Song

This week, host Peter Csathy welcomes Salt-N-Pepa's Cheryl "Salt" James to The Story Behind the Song to break down their groundbreaking 1990 track "Let's Talk About Sex."Discover the song's provocative origins, designed with producer Hurby "Luv Bug" Azor to challenge radio censorship. Salt reveals how the track, meant to spark a necessary dialogue, was later transformed at the request of news anchor Peter Jennings into the powerful PSA "Let's Talk About AIDS."The conversation also explores Salt-N-Pepa's trailblazing journey, from working at Sears with other future stars to their meteoric rise to fame. Salt recounts becoming the first female rap act to go platinum and earning their title as the "First Ladies of Rap" while navigating the shock of global stardom.Looking forward, Salt shares her decision to step back from the road for her well-being but hints at a major tour in the near future. She reflects on the full-circle feeling of seeing their legacy celebrated with accolades like their Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction.Listen to Cheryl "Salt" James talk about “Let's Talk About Sex” and more. Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week on The Story Behind the Song, host Peter Csathy welcomes Sublime drummer Bud Gaugh to dive into the story behind their classic 1997 track "Wrong Way."Discover the song's spontaneous, beer-fueled origins at Willie Nelson's Texas studio. Gaugh reveals how a casual conversation was transformed overnight by frontman Bradley Nowell into the iconic lyrics, and how the track was captured in just two takes—with the trombone player famously getting paid with a watch.The conversation also explores Sublime's gritty, organic creative process, fueled by their Long Beach friendships and experiences. Gaugh recounts the band's early struggles, the tragedy of Bradley Nowell's passing just before their breakout, and their powerful rebirth with Bradley's son, Jakob, highlighted by an impactful recent performance at Coachella.Looking forward, Bud shares his excitement for Sublime's future, including their first new album in decades. He describes the magical, full-circle experience of creating new music and touring with Jakob Nowell, bringing the band's story into a new era.Listen to Bud Gaugh talk about “Wrong Way” and more. Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week on The Story Behind the Song, host Peter Chatty welcomes the legendary Susanna Hoffs, singer, songwriter, and guitarist of the iconic 80s band, The Bangles. Hoffs takes us on a fascinating journey behind one of The Bangles' biggest hits, the 1989 power ballad, "Eternal Flame."Discover the surprising inspiration behind "Eternal Flame"—a pilgrimage to Elvis's Graceland, where The King's "eternal flame" was, ironically, extinguished. Hoffs shares how this serendipitous moment, combined with a touch of Spinal Tap humor, sparked the song's initial lyrics with Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly, and how quickly the melody and lyrics came together in a spontaneous writing session.The conversation delves into the unique, highly democratic songwriting and selection process within The Bangles, where all four talented members contributed as writers, singers, and players. Hoffs discusses the challenges and evolution of this process, especially during the making of their 1988 album, Everything, and the pivotal role of producer Davit Kahne, who brought a fresh energy and individualized approach to recording. She also shares an inspiring story about her most recent, impactful performance experience at the BeachLife Festival, a moment that reignited her passion for connecting with fans live.Beyond music, Peter and Susanna explore her creative endeavors, including her recently published novel, "This Bird Has Flown," and the exciting news of its upcoming film adaptation. Hoffs shares insights into her lifelong love for storytelling, whether in songs, books, or films.Listen to Susanna Hoffs talk about “Eternal Flame” and more. Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Queen of Disco herself, Gloria Gaynor, joins host Peter Csathy on The Story Behind the Song to explore her iconic, universal anthem "I Will Survive." Listen to Gaynor discuss her signature song.Released in 1978, "I Will Survive" was recorded while Gaynor was recovering from a paralyzing fall, and she recounts how her own situation allowed her to inject pure emotion into the recording. The conversation delves into how she gave the track a strategic debut at Studio 54, and traces Gaynor's remarkable journey back to the serendipitous "God setup" that launched her singing career. She also shares insights into her 50-plus year career, the stories behind her name change, and some delightful personal anecdotes -- including one from a fan in Italy that reflects the profound impact "I Will Survive" has had on listeners worldwide.Over 40 years later, the track has maintained its legacy as a global beacon of hope and resilience across generations. Listen to Gloria Gaynor talk about “I Will Survive” and more. You can also get tickets to her upcoming tour dates here.Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Co-founder, singer, keyboardist, and songwriter Mark Mothersbaugh of Devo joins host Peter Chatty on The Story Behind the Songto explore the iconic "Girl U Want" from Freedom of Choice. Peter welcomes Mark to discuss the bouncing and boisterous track, its unique inspirations from a Glasgow pamphlet and The Knack's "My Sharona," and its enduring legacy as a quintessential Devo classic that continues to define their de-evolutionary message. Released in 1980 on Devo's third album, Freedom of Choice, "Girl U Want" captured a pivotal moment for the band, and Devo continues its "50 Years of De-Evolution" tour, proving their message is as relevant as ever.The conversation delves into Mark's journey to becoming a "conceptualist" and true Renaissance man, from overcoming childhood blindness to his prolific work in visual art and as one of Hollywood's most sought-after film and television composers.Listen to Mark Mothersbaugh talk about “Girl U Want” and more. Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lead singer and songwriter Adam Duritz of Counting Crows joins host Peter Csathy on The Story Behind the Song, to explore the iconic "A Long December" from Recovering the Satellites. Peter welcomes Adam to discuss the deeply emotional and moving song, its spontaneous creation in under 24 hours, and its enduring legacy as a fan favorite that continues to resonate decades later. Released in 1996 on Counting Crows' second album, "A Long December" captured a unique moment, and the band is now preparing to hit the road on their summer tour in support of their great new album, Butter Miracle, the Complete Sweets.The conversation delves into Adam's 'light bulb moment' of becoming a songwriter, the band's unexpected meteoric rise with their debut August and Everything After, and the personal challenges that accompanied sudden fame. Adam also opens up about the band's new album The Butter Miracle: The Complete Sweets and the collaborative magic that fuels their creative process.Listen to Adam Duritz talk about “A Long December” and more. Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guitar legend Nancy Wilson of Heart joins host Peter Csathy for her second appearance on The Story Behind the Song , this time to explore the iconic "Barracuda" from Little Queen. Following their previous engaging conversation about "Crazy On You," Peter welcomes back Nancy to discuss the powerful guitar licks and signature riff that define this classic track. Released in 1977 on Heart's third album, "Barracuda" roared onto the scene and continues to be a fan favorite as Nancy and her sister Ann Wilson return to touring after a recent health challenge.The conversation briefly touches on their previous discussion about the lyrical context of "Crazy On You" and then pivots to "Barracuda," another signature song featuring Nancy's distinctive guitar playing. Peter teases the song's potential contemporary relevance.Listen to Nancy Wilson talk about “Barracuda” and more. Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Story Behind the Song returns for Season 4 to dive deep with legendary guitarist Mike Campbell of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers who joins host Peter Chatty to explore the iconic song "Refugee" from Damn The Torpedoes.Mike discusses his musical beginnings in Florida, from early rock influences to forming Mud Crutch with Tom Petty. He recounts the journey leading to the creation of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, a Hall of Fame band.The guitarist reveals the unexpected origin of "Refugee"'s music and shares how Tom Petty then wrote the song's timeless and powerful lyrics. Mike also touches on the recording process with Jimmy Iovine.In this episode, Mike reflects on the immense success of Damn The Torpedoes and the lasting impact of their music and provides insights into his songwriting partnership with Tom Petty. Also in this episode, beyond reflecting on his iconic work with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Mike briefly touches upon his ongoing musical journey with his band, The Dirty Knobs, and their recent projects.Listen to Mike Campbell talk about “Refugee” and more. Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

On the season finale (and encore episode) of The Story Behind the Song, hear Rick Astley discuss his classic "Never Gonna Give You Up" and more.Rick Astley burst onto the pop scene 1987 seemingly out of nowhere when his debut single -- the feel-good, earnest dance anthem “Never Gonna Give You Up” -- grabbed the No. 1 spot in 25 countries. In just a matter of weeks, Astley traded his small town outside of Manchester, England for center stage on a global scale. As fate would have it, "Never Gonna Give You Up" never gave up either. Two decades after its release, the song "Rickrolled" its way back into our hearts and the cultural conversation when it became a mid-2000s internet sensation. Fast forward to today, and the song’s video is creeping close to an astounding 1.2 billion views on YouTube. Perhaps even more impressive, at age 50 in 2016, Astley again topped the UK charts with his aptly titled album 50. While continuing to record new material, he's now sold over 40 million albums worldwide. Safe to say, Astley is no one-hit-wonder: He is a full-fledged artistic and cultural icon. Astley joins host Peter Csathy to talk about "Never Gonna Give You Up," as well as a personal choice from his catalog: "Cry for Help."Listen to the full episode now, or check out the complete video interview at Consequence.Make sure you like, review, and subscribe to The Story Behind the Song wherever you get your podcasts to catch each episode of the monthly series. Also keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Twitter @pcsathy and at Creative Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

On the latest episode of The Story Behind the Song, pioneering electronic producer and songwriter Moby joins host Peter Csathy for a deep dive into his groundbreaking album Play and the smash hit single "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?"Moby delves into his journey from a young musician experimenting with punk rock to his embracing of electronic music and DJ culture. It all led to Play, Moby's 1999 album that served as his global breakthrough and celebrates its 25th anniversary this year; with singles like "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?," Play brought Moby and his unique production and songwriting style to new critical and commercial heights.The producer reveals how he first encountered The Shining Light Gospel Choir, whose vocals appear on the track, and how the song actually ties all the way back to his 1991 single "Go" (which sampled Angelo Badalamenti's "Laura Palmer's Theme" from the TV classic Twin Peaks).Also in this episode, Moby discusses his latest album, Always Centered at Night. He also touches on his advocacy for animal rights and why raising money for charity is the only thing that will get him to tour.Listen to Moby talk about “Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad" and more. Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song,, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

On the latest episode of The Story Behind the Song, host Peter Csathy is joined by The Church bassist and vocalist Steve Kilbey to take a deep dive into the Australian band's beloved hit "Under the Milky Way." Listen to their conversation.Kilbey tracks the origins and production of "Under the Milky Way," which arrived as the lead single of The Church's 1988 debut album, Starfish. Kilbey recounts how the song was written quickly with his then-girlfriend to avoid doing dishes for his mother.Despite its humble beginnings, the song became a critical and commercial success, solidifying The Church's place in the 1980s music scene in their native Australia and beyond. The episode explores Kilbey's artistic journey and his reflections on the enduring legacy of "Under the Milky Way." Plus, the two discuss The Church's pandemic creation (and their 26th studio album), The Hypnogogue, which arrived last year.Listen to The Church talk about “Under the Milky Way" and more. Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

On the latest episode of The Story Behind the Song, William Reid, who co-founded influential UK duo The Jesus and Mary Chain with his brother Jim Reid, sits with host Peter Csathy to discuss one of the band's most iconic songs: "Just Like Honey." Listen now.After forming a band in the early '80s, brothers William and Jim Reid embarked on a punk rock journey that eventually led to their lauded 1985 debut album, Psychocandy. On this episode of TSBTS, William discusses the band's early days, the creation of their signature sound, and the lasting impact of their Psychocandy single "Just Like Honey."It also touches on the tumultuous journey that led to their recent album, Glasgow Eyes, which the band released back in March. The band is currently on the road in the US with fellow '80s favorites The Psychedelic Furs in support of Glasgow Eyes. The will continue through October and early November with shows still to come in Portland, San Francisco, and more. Get tickets to co-headlining run here.Listen to The Jesus and Mary Chain's William Reid, talk about “Just Like Honey" and more. Then, make sure to follow The Story Behind the Song, and rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Fans can also check out the new TSBTS merch -- including a killer poster and jigsaw puzzle -- available now at the Consequence Shop or via the buy now buttons below!You can keep an eye on the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series, and follow host Peter Csathy on Threads at @pcsathy and at Deep Cuts Media.Support The Story Behind the Song by checking out StubHub: https://stubhub.prf.hn/l/mVRZyZVAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy