The Turning - Seasons 1, 2 & 3

We're sharing an episode of a new podcast from CBC, called The Devil You Know. In The Devil You Know, Sarah Marshall explores the tangled web of the Satanic Panic, a journey that will take you everywhere from Victoria, B.C. to rural Kentucky to San Antonio, Texas. This is a show about the people who experienced the Satanic Panic in real-time—the believers, the skeptics, the bystanders, the wrongfully-convicted. What was it like to be a psychologist told to look for Satanists in every case; a mother slowly recovering memories of supposed Satanic abuse; a teenager accused of conspiracy to murder? The stories of these eyewitnesses point us toward the real underlying problems—individual and societal—that the Panic was a response to. The fault, as ever, was not with Satanists, but in ourselves. You can find The Devil You Know at https://link.mgln.ai/SrbDHF See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A year and a half after our first interview, we sit down with Lindsay one last time to ask her the questions you’ve been wondering about. For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART NINE - "The trees would be swaying, and you could almost feel the leaves moving. Maybe we would start humming, making up a melody. The worries and the fear just melted away. All the bad things, and all the good things, none of it mattered. I could sit back and relax and breathe. It was this moment of just feeling – safe and almost – loved by her. just a true sister and friend, not feeling judged or afraid. It felt like we were the only two people in the world in that moment." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode discusses suicide.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART SEVEN - “When I think of it now, it was almost like he prophesied his own demise. For all those years, Victor was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode includes a discussion of child sexual abuse and self-harm.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART FIVE - "I was totally in. Totally committed. Ready to take a bullet for him if needed." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode includes a discussion of the dynamics of child sexual abuse.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART THREE - “They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.” For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode includes a description of child sexual abuse.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART ONE - "I never thought it would develop into what it was." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today we present the second of two episodes featuring Karen Valby, author of The Swans of Harlem: Five Black Ballerinas, Fifty Years of Sisterhood, and Their Reclamation of a Groundbreaking History. The book records the largely forgotten stories of five Black ballerinas who changed the art form. Their stories are surprising and vivid and poignant… and totally worth your time if you enjoyed our most recent season of The Turning. In our second episode of the series, Karen Valby speaks with former ballerina and founding member of the Dance Theater of Harlem, Sheila Rohan. You can buy The Swans of Harlem here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/716415/the-swans-of-harlem-by-karen-valby/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A grab-bag of stories and extras. For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART TEN - "If it is going to stick with us forever, it matters that we get it right." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch TRANSCRIPT - https://www.rococopunch.com/turningtranscripts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART EIGHT - "Blackness is a vehicle. It's a vehicle to get people where they need to go."For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunchTRANSCRIPT - https://www.rococopunch.com/turningtranscripts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART SIX - "It feels like this hazy distant silhouette of a thing that doesn’t feel real, like a wild dream that I can’t fully recall." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch TRANSCRIPT - https://www.rococopunch.com/turningtranscriptsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART FOUR - "Balanchine was so fond of perfume that leaves the scent of that dancer behind, and it still permeates." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch TRANSCRIPT - https://www.rococopunch.com/turningtranscriptsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.