What Came Next

Content warning: grooming, sexual abuse, sexual abuse material, image-based sexual abuse, drug-facilitated sexual abuse, sexual assault, drug-facilitated rape, and rape.Jenn Wilenta is a mother, survivor, educator, dancer, and advocate. After pursuing a degree in contemporary dance, Jenn reinvented her career several times to evolve with her burgeoning family. However, her trajectory would forever change in 2015 when she found a folder of videos on her partner-at-the-time’s computer. The videos showed her an alternate reality to the one she was living in, and life as she knew it changed forever. As a result, she would eventually seek justice within the criminal legal system, and cultivate her own sense of justice outside of it. This led her to begin vulnerably sharing her experiences in her social media-based series, Tiny Kitchen Dances, which then led to the making of her documentary, Tiny Movements. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful Jenn was willing to share her story so powerfully and eloquently for the sake of our audience’s awareness. Follow Jenn:- Jenn's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tinykitchendances/- Tiny Movements Film: https://www.tinymovementsfilm.com/For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Rula for sponsoring this episode. Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod

Content warning: substance use disorder, substance abuse, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, elder abuse, child-to-parent violence and abuse, and murder.Ginger Goetz is a mother, graphic designer, and co-victim of murder from Kentucky. Since the 2015 murder of her mother, and the consequent legal battle to keep her sister imprisoned for the crime, Ginger has made it her life mission to bring awareness to intrafamilial murder & child-to-parent violence. In just over a decade, she has shared her and her mother’s story on many different platforms including Evil Lives Here, Deadly Women, Snapped, and more. She does so to honor her mother, Carlene, and to help others who may be navigating similar violence. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Ginger’s time, energy, and shared mission in grief. These two episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Carlene Conley.If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and/or child-to-parent violence and abuse in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region.For a list of additional resources, visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources for a list of non-profit organizations that can help.Thank you again to Cash App for sponsoring this episode. Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/394eb6t5 #CashAppPodCash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.

Content warning: stalking, child sexual abuse material, childhood sexual abuse, kidnapping, rape. Liz is a mother and survivor from New York. When she was 14 years old, the police launched an investigation with her next door neighbor as the subject because they suspected he had a nefarious plan to groom and likely abuse Liz. After several months navigating an eye-opening, life-changing criminal justice process, Liz was left to heal largely on her own as her freshman year of high school ended. In this episode, Liz shares her poignant perspective of what it means to be a survivor and the reality of healing from adolescent trauma in adulthood. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for her time, energy, & desire to help others by sharing her story. For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you to Rula & Lola Blankets for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget that Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod And all listeners can get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets!

Content warning: extreme violence, brutality, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, strangulation, torture, domestic violence, criminal threats, kidnapping, and murder. Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of their marriage, Jordan would be a victim to an escalating pattern of coercion, control, and violence. The violence would rise to an unprecedented level in October of 2022, when the man who promised to love Jordan kidnapped her and abused her for eleven days. His October 17th, 2022 arrest offered her immediate safety, but the legal battles that ensued afterwards signified the beginning of a whole new journey for Jordan. Her experiences led her to become a victim advocate and to fight for legal change for domestic violence victims everywhere. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for Jordan’s time, energy, and advocacy in the following episodes.Support Jordan:- Jordan's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wulfboysmommy- Jordan's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wulf.jordan- Jordan's Petition: https://www.change.org/p/reform-divorce-proceedings-for-domestic-violence-survivorsResources:If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and are in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region.Domestic Violence & Sexual Assault Crisis Services: https://dvipiowa.org/Sources: - “Hear Why an Attack Survivor Wants Expedited Divorces for Abuse Victims.” Des Moines Register, 9 Oct. 2024, www.desmoinesregister.com/videos/news/investigations/2024/10/09/hear-why-an-attack-survivor-wants-expedited-divorces-for-abuse-victims/75181936007Thank you again to Lola Blankets & Cash App for sponsoring this episode. Get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets. Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/394eb6t5 #CashAppPodCash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.

Content warning: emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, torture, domestic violence, physical brutality, kidnapping, and murder. Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of their marriage, Jordan would be a victim to an escalating pattern of coercion, control, and violence. The violence would rise to an unprecedented level in October of 2022, when the man who promised to love Jordan kidnapped her and abused her for eleven days. His October 17th, 2022 arrest offered her immediate safety, but the legal battles that ensued afterwards signified the beginning of a whole new journey for Jordan. Her experiences led her to become a victim advocate and to fight for legal change for domestic violence victims everywhere. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for Jordan’s time, energy, and advocacy in the following episodes.If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and are in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region.For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Thank you again to Lola Blankets and Cash App for sponsoring this episode. You can get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets.And download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/394eb6t5 #CashAppPodCash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.

Content warning: child abuse, rape, strangulation, asphyxia, and murder. Shelley Hamilton is a co-victim of murder and co-author of the nonfiction book, The Forsaken. She has spent years uncovering the truth behind a deeply personal and complex case that forever changed her family and community, the 1978 murders of Shelley's 24-year-old sister, Rhonda Hamilton Wicht, and Rhonda's four-year-old son, Donnie. Shelley's journey in the criminal justice system over the last 48 years has been truly shocking. From mistrial to conviction to a prisoner's pardon, she has never given up her fight for truth. Alongside journalist Alicia Doyle, Shelley's mission in co-authoring The Forsaken is to document the facts and share the emotional truth that drives this story. The Broken Cycle media team is incredibly grateful for both women's time, energy, and advocacy. These episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Rhonda and Donnie Wicht.Sources:- Shelley's blog: https://rdjustice.home.blog/- Alicia's website: http://www.aliciadoyle.com- The Forsaken: https://rhondadonnie.com/- The Oath: https://amzn.to/4axmTF8For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, rape, strangulation, asphyxia, and murder. Shelley Hamilton is a co-victim of murder and co-author of the nonfiction book, The Forsaken. She has spent years uncovering the truth behind a deeply personal and complex case that forever changed her family and community, the 1978 murders of Shelley's 24-year-old sister, Rhonda Hamilton Wicht, and Rhonda's four-year-old son, Donnie. Shelley's journey in the criminal justice system over the last 48 years has been truly shocking. From mistrial to conviction to a prisoner's pardon, she has never given up her fight for truth. Alongside journalist Alicia Doyle, Shelley's mission in co-authoring The Forsaken is to document the facts and share the emotional truth that drives this story. The Broken Cycle media team is incredibly grateful for both women's time, energy, and advocacy. The following episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Rhonda and Donnie Wicht. Sources:Shelley's blog: https://rdjustice.home.blog/Resources:If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence, help is available. If you believe you are in immediate danger, please call 9-1-1 or contact your local authorities for emergency assistance. Local domestic violence programs, shelters, and crisis hotlines can also provide confidential support.For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Quince and Lola Blankets for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to elevate your summer wardrobe by going to Quince.com/wcn for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. And you can get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets.

Content warning: childhood abuse, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, abduction, missing persons, gun violence, murder, and mental illness.Amber Rodgers is a survivor, business professional, and creative from Texas. As early as she can remember, her life was filled with chaos. By the time she was fourteen, she was a multi-crime survivor, and by 19 she would serve as a witness in her best friend’s murder trial. Amber moved forward by cultivating a successful career and loving family, until her past trauma instigated a cascading effect in her mental health and relationships. Although Amber has shared portions of her story at-large, it took her decades and a life-altering mental health journey to realize the deep impact her teen years had had on her. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply appreciative of Amber’s transparency, rawness, and advocacy. These episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Kytrina Marie Locascio.Sources: -Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “About Adverse Childhood Experiences.” CDC, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 2025, https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/aces/. -Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs).” CDC Vital Signs, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/aces/index.html. -Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “Psychosocial Factors and Health Equity.” CDC, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, https://www.cdc.gov/dhdsp/health_equity/psychosocial.htm. -Felitti, Vincent J., et al. “Relationship of Childhood Abuse and Household Dysfunction to Many of the Leading Causes of Death in Adults: The Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) Study.” American Journal of Preventive Medicine, vol. 14, no. 4, 1998, pp. 245–258.-Hughes, Karen, et al. “The Effect of Multiple Adverse Childhood Experiences on Health: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.” The Lancet Public Health, vol. 2, no. 8, 2017, pp. e356–e366. doi:10.1016/S2468-2667(17)30118-4.-McKay, Matthew T., Laura Kilmartin, Aisling Meagher, Mary Cannon, Colm Healy, and Mary C. Clarke. “A Revised and Extended Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of the Relationship between Childhood Adversity and Adult Psychiatric Disorder.” Journal of Psychiatric Research, vol. 156, 2022, pp. 159–174. PubMed, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36274532/. -Swedo, Elizabeth A., et al. “Prevalence of Adverse Childhood Experiences Among U.S. Adults—Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, 2011–2020.” Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, vol. 72, no. 26, 2023, pp. 707–715, https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7226a2.htm. -Zhang, Y., et al. “Cumulative Adverse Childhood Experiences and Risk of Mental Disorders: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.” Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica, 2026, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0001691826007559. Accessed 2 June 2026.For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources*Thank you again to Rula and Quince for sponsoring this episode. *Remember, Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod *And don't forget to elevate your summer wardrobe, go to quince.com/wcn for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns, now available in Canada too.

*Content Warning: fraud, harassment, catfishing, stalking, sexual abuse, troubled teen industry, childhood abuse, and institutionalized child abuse.*Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips:somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesCheck out our brand new SWW Sticker Shop!: https://brokencyclemedia.com/sticker-shop*SWW S24 Artwork: The S24 cover art is by the Amazing Sara StewartFollow Something Was Wrong: Website: somethingwaswrong.com IG: instagram.com/somethingwaswrongpodcast TikTok: tiktok.com/@somethingwaswrongpodcast Follow Tiffany Reese: Website: tiffanyreese.me IG: instagram.com/lookieboo Follow Amy B. Chesler:IG: instagram.com/amybchesler *Resources:The Gathering Inn: https://www.thegatheringinn.com/Tending the Garden: https://www.tendingthegarden.love/Trans Doe Task Force: https://transdoetaskforce.org/*Sources:-Baker, Jennifer. “Doula Defrauder Kaitlyn Braun Will Return to Court in May for Sentencing Submissions.” CTVNews, 7 Mar. 2025, www.ctvnews.ca/kitchener/article/doula-defrauder-kaitlyn-braun-will-return-to-court-in-may-for-sentencing-submissions/-Beattie, Samantha. “Judge Calls Woman a ‘danger,’ Sends Her to Prison after Faking Pregnancies, Defrauding Ontario Doulas | CBC News.” CBCnews, CBC/Radio Canada, 10 June 2025, www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/kaitlyn-braun-sentence-1.7556327-Reese, Tiffany. “Season 18.” Something Was Wrong, Broken Cycle Media. https://somethingwaswrong.com/Thanks again to Boll and Branch and Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget you can get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping during the Memorial Day Sale at BollAndBranch.com/wcn with code WCN (exclusions apply). And upgrade your mobile plans at MintMobile.com/wcn.

Content Warning: love fraud, intimate fraud, financial fraud, gun violence, and robbery.Tracy Hall is a mother, author, speaker, business marketing expert, and victim of financial and intimate fraud from Australia. After a series of traumatic events and life changes, Tracy found herself unexpectedly single in her early 40’s. Although she had a full life, she sought an activity partner to grow with. That’s when she met Max Tavita, a Bondi Beach businessman with an active lifestyle and a deepening love for Tracy. Over the next year and a half, he would carefully cultivate a relationship that promised to fulfill all of Tracy’s romantic, personal, and even financial dreams. However, it would all come toppling down upon his December 2017 arrest, which brought the realization that Max - whose real name was Hamish - wasn’t who he said he was. Since navigating a long criminal justice process, sharing her story via podcast, book, and beyond, Tracy has made it her mission to bring awareness to the intricacies and stigmas of intimate fraud. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful for Tracy’s openness, expertise, and advocacy.Tracy's Website: https://tracyhall.com.au/Tracy's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tracyleehall/Tracy's Media Language Guide: https://tracyhall.com.au/resourcesThe Last Victim in paperback: https://amzn.to/4ngzQbnThe Last Victim in Audiobook: https://amzn.to/4tZhezxWho the Hell is Hamish?: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/who-the-hell-is-hamish/id1451470931Sources:- “Conman Hamish McLaren Jailed for up to 16 Years after Swindling $7.6m from Victims.” The Guardian, Guardian News and Media, 20 June 2019, www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/20/conman-hamish-mclaren-jailed-for-up-to-16-years-after-swindling-76m-from-victims- “Early Appropriate Guilty Pleas.” The Law Society of New South Wales, www.lawsociety.com.au/resources/resources/my-practice-area/criminal-law/early-appropriate-guilty-pleas. For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: suicidal ideation, suicide, neglect, abuse, torture, child abuse, childhood torture, domestic childhood torture, institutionalized abuse, and institutionalized torture. Ali Davis is a healthcare professional, non-profit founder, and a survivor of alleged childhood torture. She was born in Alaska, and as early as she can remember, the alleged torture that she would face at the hands of her mother had begun. It would take her years to come to recognize the weight of all that she navigated, and to be able to name it appropriately. Amidst her healing journey she launched a non-profit foundation called Pretti Graffiti which was established to provide funding for humanitarian aid for survivors of non-war-related childhood torture in the United States. Ali is paving the way for survivors and researchers alike, bringing awareness and prevention as a result of her efforts. The Broken Cycle Media team is so deeply grateful for her sharing her time, energy, expertise, and deeply empathetic views with our audience. The Pretti Graffiti Foundation: https://www.prettigraffiti.org/Pretti Graffiti on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@_ali_davis_Sources: [PDF] Child Torture as a Form of Child Abuse | Semantic Scholar, www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Child-Torture-as-a-Form-of-Child-Abuse-Knox-Starling/2d88139a3af0775d9a20333b03bb8f356cbc6615 For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget, if you like your money, Mint Mobile is for you. Shop plans at mintmobile.com/wcn

Content Warning: systemic betrayal, institutional betrayal, gun violence, suicide, and murder.As shared in part one of her story, Jana Guyewski-Lautigar is a mother, educator, social worker, and author from Bastrop, Louisiana. She joins us today to honor her sister, Crystal McCrorry Jones, whose life tragically ended on February 9th, 2023. Her death was deemed an unattended death - when a person passes away without witnesses or medical personnel present - and thus, requires certain processes and procedures be completed to properly be investigated. Jana has been on a mission since Crystal’s death to compel the local authorities in the small town of Oak Grove to conduct standard, additional investigatory tasks that she believes should have been completed. Jana also now speaks out as an advocate for other family members seeking justice - and sometimes even just a simple investigation - via the media, her books, and in her classroom. She works to bring to light the injustices that The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply honored she is here today to share Crystal with our audience, as well as to share her expertise, advocacy, and warmth. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Crystal McCrory Jones.Justice for Crystal McCrory Jones FB Group:https://www.facebook.com/groups/3074535702847225/Justice for Crystal McCrory Jones Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/justiceforcrystalmccroryjones/Petition to Re-Open Crystal's Investigation:https://www.change.org/p/reopen-investigation-into-death-of-crystal-mccrory-jonesProposal for Crystal McCrory Law:https://www.change.org/p/proposal-for-the-crystal-mccrory-law-ensuring-proper-procedures-for-mailing-human-remainsFor a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Mint Mobile and Quince for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget: if you like your money, Mint Mobile is for you. Shop plans at MintMobile.com/wcn. And refresh your spring wardrobe with Quince. Go to Quince.com/WCN for free shipping and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too.

Content warning: self-harm, suicidal ideation, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, and suicide. Jen Higgins is a resident of Arkansas, mother, and founder of Anyway Socks, a company on a mission to help end domestic violence. Jen was inspired to create the company after the loss of her best friend, Brooke. In years prior, Brooke had been surviving and attempting to escape a violent relationship, and Jen was doing her best to be Brooke’s support person. However, it was after the tragic loss of Brooke, that Jen was left with a gaping hole in her heart, and a mission on her mind. She now offers support to domestic violence resources by way of her company, and she continues to share Brooke’s memory with the world in order to make change. She also works hard to bring awareness to the deep impact that being a co-victim of abuse can have on a loved one’s trajectory. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful for Jen’s strength, perspective, and mission. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Brooke.If you or someone you know is a victim of domestic violence, please consider seeking safety resources via https://www.thehotline.org/. For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Anyway Socks: https://anywaysocks.com/Anyway Socks on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anywaysocks/Northwest Arkansas Women's Shelter: chttps://peaceathomeshelter.org/Peace at Home Family Shelter: https://peaceathomeshelter.org/Don't forget that for a limited time only, our listeners are getting an insane deal on First Day vitamins! Use code [WCN] to get up to 57% Off at FirstDay.com. That’s up to 57% Off and a Free Gift with code [WCN] at FirstDay.com. After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them; please support our show and tell them What Came Next sent you.