Commercially Speaking Podcast- Commercial Real Estate Investing That Entertains
by Bo Barron, CCIM | Timmy Barron, ADHD
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Most Investors Are Asking the Wrong Question | Bob Fraser
Jun 16, 2026
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The Human Element in Real Estate Will Outlive AI—Here’s Why | Andie Edmonds, CCIM President-Elect
Jun 9, 2026
1h 15m 50s
Is Multifamily About to Break… or Boom? | Reid Bennett, CCIM
Apr 8, 2026
1h 24m 27s
When Should You Hire an Executive Assistant? | Terry Pham of SuperPowersHQ™
Mar 24, 2026
1h 20m 43s
Why Smart Entrepreneurs Keep Failing (And Don’t Know Why) | Tebow Group CEO Tommy Martin
Mar 17, 2026
1h 12m 49s
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| 6/16/26 |  Most Investors Are Asking the Wrong Question | Bob Fraser | Most investors start by asking:"How much money can I make?"Bob Fraser thinks that's the wrong question.In this episode, the co-founder and CFO of Aspen Funds explains why the best investors in the world focus on risk before returns, how billionaire investors build portfolios differently, and why protecting capital matters more than chasing upside.We dive into:✅ Why good technology doesn't automatically create good investments✅ The hidden problem with most capital raising strategies✅ How billionaire investors think about risk✅ Why Evergreen funds may outperform traditional syndications✅ The biggest mistakes operators make when raising capital✅ What Bob looks for before investing in any deal✅ The future of multifamily, industrial, and retail real estate✅ Why natural gas may be one of the most important investments of the next decadePlus, Bob shares lessons from being wiped out during both the Dot-Com crash and the Great Financial Crisis and how those experiences shaped the way he invests today.If you're an investor, operator, broker, or entrepreneur trying to build wealth that survives market cycles, this episode is packed with practical insights.Thanks To Our Sponsors🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need an executive assistant that will anticipate your needs? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl | — | ||||||
| 6/9/26 |  The Human Element in Real Estate Will Outlive AI—Here’s Why | Andie Edmonds, CCIM President-Elect✨ | AI in real estatehuman relationships+4 | Andie Edmonds | ChatGPTClaude+1 | OregonArizona | real estateAI+6 | — | 1h 15m 50s | |
| 4/8/26 |  Is Multifamily About to Break… or Boom? | Reid Bennett, CCIM✨ | multifamily investmentmarket analysis+5 | Reid Bennett | LinkedIn | — | multifamilyreal estate+8 | Superpowers HQCODE | 1h 24m 27s | |
| 3/24/26 |  When Should You Hire an Executive Assistant? | Terry Pham of SuperPowersHQ™✨ | executive assistantdelegation+4 | Terry Pham | SuperPowersHQ™ | — | executive assistantdelegation+5 | — | 1h 20m 43s | |
| 3/17/26 |  Why Smart Entrepreneurs Keep Failing (And Don’t Know Why) | Tebow Group CEO Tommy Martin✨ | entrepreneurshipbusiness failure+3 | Tommy Martin | Tebow Group | — | entrepreneurshipbusiness failure+5 | Superpowers HQcommerciallyspeaking | 1h 12m 49s | |
| 2/24/26 | The Last Broker Is Alive Right Now | Michael Hironimus, CCIM Is Acting Different✨ | artificial intelligencebrokerage model+4 | Michael Hironimus | Commercially Speaking Podcast | — | artificial intelligencebrokerage+3 | — | 1h 33m 14s | |
| 2/17/26 |  How Top Brokers Actually Think | Gary Martinez, CCIM✨ | commercial real estatebroker strategies+4 | Gary Martinez | CI 102Southern California | — | commercial real estatebroker+5 | — | 1h 33m 57s | |
| 2/10/26 |  What Billion-Dollar Investors Actually Look For (It’s Not Your Numbers) | Greg Dugard✨ | billion-dollar investorsinvestment strategies+3 | Greg Dugard | Seder Grove HoldingsNotre Dame | — | investmentcapital raising+3 | CRE Investor CoachCODE | 1h 22m 37s | |
| 2/3/26 |  DST vs 1031: The Tax-Deferred Option No One Explains | With Taylor Ashland✨ | 1031 exchangeDelaware Statutory Trusts+4 | Taylor Ashland | Ashland Pacific | — | 1031 exchangeDelaware Statutory Trust+5 | — | 1h 19m 50s | |
| 1/27/26 |  You Won. Now What? The Money Problems No One Prepares You For | with Garrett Gatton✨ | money managementwealth building+4 | Garrett Gatton | Reinvest Capital | — | money problemsfinancial advice+4 | — | 1h 15m 52s | |
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| 1/20/26 |  Modern Neighborhoods Were Designed To Make Us Lonely. The Solution Is Simple.✨ | real estate developmentwalkable communities+4 | Austin Tunnell | Building CultureKPMG | — | modern neighborhoodscar-dependent+6 | Super PowersEA | 1h 10m 46s | |
| 11/27/25 |  CCIM Fall Forum, Capital Camp and Chainsaw Weekend | Happy Thanksgiving | CSPod Ep 124✨ | ThanksgivingCCIM Fall Forum+4 | — | — | — | ThanksgivingCCIM Fall Forum+3 | — | 55m 15s | |
| 11/19/25 |  The Data Center Crisis No One Is Talking About — With Simon Enwia, CCIM | If you want to understand data centers, the power grid crisis, and the real estate race behind the future of AI — this is the episode.Today on Commercially Speaking, we sit down with Simon Enwia, CCIM — a multi-state broker, tech-driven developer, and one of the few people specializing in data center development sites. And what he reveals is wild:Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:Why data center vacancy is below 1% nationwideThe reason America will need 2x the power by 2030What makes land “powered land” — and why it’s becoming the new goldThe exact criteria hyperscalers (Amazon, Meta, Google, Oracle) look forWhy data centers are now measured in megawatts per acre, not square footageHow the U.S. is locked in an AI arms race with ChinaThe brutal truth about NIMBY pushback and community approvalsWhy some utilities are charging $250,000+ just to get in line for power studiesThe four things every site absolutely must have:Simon breaks down the economics, the pipeline issues, the insane permitting timelines, and why the next decade of CRE may hinge entirely on data center development.This is the deep dive on data centers you’ve been looking for.🔔 Enjoyed the episode? Do these 3 things:1. Subscribe on YouTube & Spotify2. Leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts3. Join the newsletter:👉 subscribe.wgbaron.com🚀 Build your CRE business fasterHire a virtual assistant trained specifically for CRE:👉 superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking🙌 Huge ThanksA massive thank-you to Simon Enwia, CCIM for breaking down the world of data centers and the future of AI infrastructure.Email: simon@senw.ioReal Estate Forum: forum.senw.iodc.land00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:29 - Welcome Simon Enwia, CCIM00:04:34 - Becoming an SIOR Candidate00:06:37 - Welcome to KY Bourbon Lesson by Bo00:11:01 - Getting Into CRE00:13:23 - House Flipping00:17:04 - Creating The First Digital Security for REITS00:19:50 - COVID Hits00:20:33 - The Love Of Deal Making00:21:46 - Licensed In 3 States In 10 Days00:24:16 - Senior Advisor At SVN00:26:52 - Getting A Managing Broker’s License In Multiple States00:29:38 - Building A Tech-Based Brokerage00:34:36 - CCIM is Better Than Real Estate MBA00:40:23 - Never Use Your Network. Provide Value To Your Network00:40:53 - Knakal Affiliate Program00:41:32 - An Inch Wide And A Mile Deep00:43:29 - How To Figure Out What To Specialize In00:47:54 - Fiduciary Responsibility00:52:06 - Cheers, Jesus!00:53:01 - A Good Name Is Worth More Than Gold and Silver00:55:55 - The Incredible Worth Ethic Of Immigrants00:57:47 - Data Centers01:02:30 - 1. Vacancy For Data Centers Is At A Low 1%01:03:12 - 2. There Is Not Nearly Enough Power (Will Need Double By 2030)01:05:19 - Bill Gates On Climate Change01:07:23 - 3. There Is An AI Race!01:09:55 - How Important Is Taiwan Right Now?01:14:21 - The Ideal Data Center Property01:17:39 - How Much Power a Hyper Scaler Needs! (Meta, OpenAI etc)01:18:34 - Quantifying The Power Needed01:19:38 - Infrastructure Proximity01:20:43 - The High Cost Of Getting In Line01:21:55 - $200K A Year Software Per User01:22:56 - Several Years To Close01:25:26 - Convincing The Community To Allow A Data Center01:31:48 - Land Size01:33:08 - Water Usage01:34:08 - Fiber and Redundancy01:36:37 - Leasing a Humanoid Robot01:39:41 - Behind The Meter (What’s Not Connected To The Grid)01:40:33 - Becoming The Knakal Of Data Centers01:42:35 - Simon@SENW.io, dc.land01:43:09 - Simon Is Hiring01:44:19 - Pop Quiz02:03:25 - forum.senw.io02:04:04 - Outro | — | ||||||
| 11/11/25 |  The Executive Coach Your Favorite CEO Is Probably Hiding | with Mary Katherine Wathen | She built a coaching company, wrote a book in four days, and raises seven kids—Mary Katherine Wathen is redefining what it means to lead a meaningful, integrated life. In this live studio episode, she joins Bo and Timmy to talk executive coaching, identity, leadership burnout, humility at the top, and how to live authentically at work, at home, and everywhere in between.💥 Whether you're a burned-out broker or a high-achieving exec wondering, “Is this it?”—this episode is your wake-up call.📚 Book: Made for More https://a.co/d/5ca0QfV🌐 westofperfection.com#Leadership #Coaching #CommerciallySpeaking #CRE #ExecutiveCoaching #MaryKatherineWathenThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📚 Book: Made for More https://a.co/d/5ca0QfV🌐 westofperfection.com📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — https://subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — https://tizbee.com | — | ||||||
| 11/4/25 |  Transforming Commercial Real Estate with Technology | The Birth of Crexi | In this bonus episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy welcome Luke Morris, co-founder of Crexi and Capitalize. They discuss Luke's journey in commercial real estate, the evolution of Crexi, and the launch of Capitalize, a platform designed to streamline commercial real estate financing using AI. The conversation delves into the challenges faced by brokers and lenders, the importance of data in the industry, and the future prospects for Capitalize. Luke emphasizes the need for transparency and trust in commercial real estate, highlighting how technology can empower brokers to better serve their clients.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest02:40 Luke Morris: Early Life and Career Path05:19 The Birth of Crexie: Innovations in Commercial Real Estate08:00 The Evolution of Crexie: Growth and Milestones10:48 Identifying Pain Points in Commercial Real Estate13:32 Capitalize: The Next Step in PropTech16:25 Understanding Capitalize's Functionality and Market Impact19:07 Use Cases for Brokers: Enhancing Efficiency and Effectiveness21:56 The Role of Brokers in Commercial Real Estate24:34 Exploring the Technology Behind Capitalize27:27 Real-Time Insights and Market Dynamics30:28 Conclusion and Future Outlook33:22 Understanding Mezzanine Debt and Preferred Equity36:51 Navigating Fund Management and Deal Sponsorship39:28 Challenges in Data Aggregation and AI Integration44:08 Personal Insights and Hobbies of Luke Morris48:52 Engagement and Future Steps for Capitalize.io | — | ||||||
| 10/28/25 |  How to Use Self-Directed IRAs to Invest in Real Estate (and Alpacas) | with Dana Udumulla | Can your retirement account buy real estate? Startups? Alpaca farms?! Yes. And in this episode, Dana Udumulla from Madison Trust breaks down how self-directed IRAs actually work, what they can (and can’t) invest in, and why more commercial real estate investors should be using them to raise capital.Whether you're an accredited investor or a confused podcast co-host (cough Timmy), this conversation is packed with practical takeaways, tax strategies, and jaw-dropping scenarios (like turning $7K/year into $4.75M tax-free).We also get into:Roth vs Traditional IRA pros & consCommon mistakes investors make (and how to avoid getting disqualified)How to structure deals to receive retirement dollarsReal estate, bonus depreciation, and... Brazilian sugar?Don’t invest another dollar until you listen. Your future self will thank you.📈 Sponsored by: Site to Do Business (STDB.com) and CRE Investor Coach🎯 Learn more: MadisonTrust.com👇 Subscribe + rate us if you learned something new!Thanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — https://subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — https://tizbee.com00:00:00 – Welcome to Commercially Speaking (and IRR is NOT a pirate noise)00:00:42 – Meet Dana Kudumula: IRA Whisperer & Queen of Custodians00:02:51 – Legal Disclaimer: No Financial Advice, Just Vibes00:04:42 – What Even Is a Self-Directed IRA?00:06:45 – Dana’s Origin Story: $200, Wall Street, and Finding Her Passion00:08:11 – “You Can Invest in WHAT?!” – Real IRA Examples00:10:05 – Roth vs Traditional IRAs Explained00:14:33 – A $400K Tax-Free Growth Scenario00:16:01 – Can You Use Bonus Depreciation in an IRA?00:19:27 – Can a Fund Accept Self-Directed IRA Capital?00:21:48 – What Happens to “Wasted” Depreciation?00:24:42 – The Real Estate Pro Tax Strategy Breakdown00:26:26 – Can You Roll Over Any Retirement Account?00:29:15 – Setting Up a Self-Directed IRA (Step-by-Step)00:32:54 – Who Legally Owns the Asset? It’s Not You!00:33:46 – What Happens to Rental Income?00:34:42 – The Checkbook Control Model00:36:07 – Reminder: It’s Still a Retirement Account00:37:13 – When Can You Take Distributions?00:38:41 – How Much Can You Contribute? (And For Your Kids Too!)00:41:00 – How $7K/Yr Becomes $4.75M – Compound Interest 10100:44:22 – Roth vs Traditional: The Contribution Tradeoff00:45:21 – Yes, Kids Can Have Self-Directed IRAs Too00:46:45 – What Can’t You Do With a Self-Directed IRA?00:48:09 – Creative Legal Loopholes (But Don’t Try These at Home)00:50:22 – Lending to Family: Who’s Disqualified?00:52:13 – Mistakes That Kill Your IRA (Seriously)00:56:05 – The Biggest Scam Red Flags (And How to Vet Deals)00:58:52 – Know Your Risk Profile: Don’t YOLO Retirement Funds01:00:42 – Capital Raising From IRAs: A Hidden Superpower01:03:28 – The $44 Trillion Opportunity01:04:52 – Timmy’s Misconception: “Isn’t There a Menu of Investments?”01:07:16 – Why Financial Advisors Don’t Talk About This01:08:40 – Timmy & Dana Bond Over February Birthdays01:09:10 – Most Common IRA Scams (And the Power of Pause)01:12:02 – The Importance of Trusted Communities01:13:30 – Final Takeaway: Research, Pause, and Diversify | — | ||||||
| 10/21/25 |  Why Chuck Welden Says CRE is for Idiots (And Why He Might Be Right) | Chuck Welden doesn’t just talk real estate — he lives it.He’s a landlord, developer, and manager who still picks up trash on his own properties. In this episode, Chuck brings the heat (and the humor), breaking down:🔹 The dangerous illusion of scale🔹 What “boots on the ground” really looks like🔹 Why managing properties makes you a better developer🔹 The mindset most brokers will never get🔹 Why being “dumb” might be your biggest asset in CREThis one is funny, wise, and brutally honest — don’t miss it.🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 Subscribe for more: youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking📩 Get exclusive updates: subscribe.wgbarron.com#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Brokerage #LexingtonKY #SecondaryMarkets #TenantStrategyThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — https://subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — https://tizbee.comChapters👇00:00 – Chuck Welden: Gators, Leases & Baptisms00:30 – The Chuck Welden Masterclass Begins01:08 – Meet Your Hosts (and Confused Cap Rates)02:04 – Who is Chuck Welden?03:01 – The Disclaimer Section04:28 – WWE Meets Sunday Service05:28 – Chuck’s Business Philosophy & KPIs07:16 – Commercial Break: CRE Investor Coach & STDB08:41 – Chuck’s Origin Story13:34 – How Chuck Blends Business & Kingdom Impact17:22 – What is Business as Mission?19:17 – The Power of Relationship at Scale24:10 – How Christian Principles Help Business27:07 – What Loving Tenants Actually Looks Like31:23 – What You Don’t Measure, You Don’t Treasure35:09 – Love, Truth, and Trash Pickup39:25 – Creation Care & Conservation in CRE45:22 – The Triple (or Quadruple) Bottom Line51:03 – Nobody Cares How Much You Know...57:15 – Fund 2: What’s Next for Weldon Field01:00:02 – Social Needs + Cultural Fluency01:02:59 – The Prayer Walks & Resident Stories01:07:16 – Connect, Share, Gather, Train01:10:12 – What Happens After the Sale?01:13:08 – Chuck’s Challenge to Churches01:18:03 – Inventory Your Missional Potential01:24:25 – Who Should We Talk To Next?01:26:51 – Chuck’s Final Invite + Lions Den Info01:32:40 – Outro + Barbara Corcoran Plea | — | ||||||
| 10/14/25 |  This Is What Separates Good Brokers from Great Ones | with Anthony Humphress | What do top brokers really look at when evaluating a market?In this episode, we sit down with Anthony Humphress, a commercial real estate powerhouse out of Lexington, KY, to unpack what makes a secondary market thrive — and the blind spots brokers often miss.We dive into:🔹 Why Lexington is outperforming much larger markets🔹 Anthony’s tenant-focused approach to brokerage🔹 How to think like a strategist, not a tour guide🔹 The real reason deals fall apart🔹 Lessons from decades of CRE experienceIf you’re a broker, investor, or advisor — this episode will sharpen how you see your market.🎬 Chapters00:00 - Intro: Who is Anthony Humphress?02:45 - How Lexington punches above its weight08:20 - Anthony’s tenant-first mindset12:55 - What most brokers get wrong about market analysis17:30 - How to build trust with tenants and landlords22:40 - The real reason deals fall apart27:10 - Lexington’s retail momentum and future outlook32:05 - Why Anthony loves secondary markets36:40 - What great brokers do differently41:15 - Closing thoughts & advice for new brokers44:20 - Outro🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 Subscribe for more: youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking📩 Get exclusive updates: subscribe.wgbarron.com#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Brokerage #LexingtonKY #SecondaryMarkets #TenantStrategyThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — https://subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — https://tizbee.com | — | ||||||
| 9/30/25 |  40 Years in CRE: What Brokers STILL Get Wrong | with Allen Buchanan, SIOR | What does 40 years in commercial real estate teach you?In this episode, we sit down with Allen Buchanan — one of the most respected veterans in brokerage — to talk about the habits, mistakes, and mindset that make or break a CRE career.We dig into:🔹 The #1 mistake brokers still make today🔹 Why talking yourself out of the deal beats short-term wins🔹 The ingredients of an elite broker🔹 The secret to networking🔹 His advice for the next generation of brokersWhether you’re just starting out or leading a team, Allen’s insights will help you sharpen your game and avoid the pitfalls that sink so many others.🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking👤 Connect with Allen Buchanan: @allencbuchanan, abuchanan@lee-associates.com, 714-624-3896📚 Get Allen’s Book “The Sequence: A Personal Journey and Proven Framework for Commercial Real Estate Brokerage Success”: https://a.co/d/iYzg6K7#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Brokerage #CareerAdviceThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📚 “The Sequence: A Personal Journey and Proven Framework for Commercial Real Estate Brokerage Success”: https://a.co/d/iYzg6K7📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — https://subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — https://tizbee.com00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:00 - Welcome Allen Buchanan00:02:55 - The CRE OGs of Twitter00:04:20 - Divorce, Boy Scouts, Baseball and Golf00:09:09 - Interviewing As A Family And Moving To CA00:09:25 - AD: CRE Investor Coach (Link in Shownotes), Site To Do Business https://stdb.com00:10:41 - Interviewing As A Family And Moving To CA00:15:18 - The Ingredients Of An Elite Broker?00:16:13 - The Proper Why00:17:55 - Focus and Put In The Reps00:19:09 - Why Go Through The Brain Damage Of Writing A Book?00:21:16 - Why Your Book Is Worth Reading00:23:33 - What Other Professionals Have The Clients I Want?00:26:56 - The 2008 Minor Economic Setback00:28:50 - Walk Me Through How You Build A Network?00:34:02 - I Want To Understand What You Do So I Can Help You00:36:58 - Transferring Trust (The Referral)00:39:17 - Working Out Loud00:42:39 - The 3 Things You Need To Be Successful On Social Media00:47:45 - AD: Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:48:24 - The Sequence: https://a.co/d/dAHZo5O00:50:54 - Ways To Source Deals00:55:15 - Focused Questioning (Evaluate/Need Assessment)01:02:14 - How Do You Qualify A Lead?01:07:53 - Talk Yourself Out Of The Deal!!01:11:25 - The Superpower Of Specializing01:17:08 - Pop Quiz01:25:00 - Massimo March Madness01:27:54 - Shoutouts! | — | ||||||
| 9/23/25 |  Why Smart CRE Investors Are Buying Land, Not Buildings | with Quinn McArthur | What if the most stable real estate investment wasn’t buildings…It was land?In this episode, we sit down with Quinn McArthur, a land investor who quietly built a business that offers nearly guaranteed 10% returns — all while working from anywhere and skipping the headaches of tenants, toilets, or debt.We dive into:🔹 How his land business works (and why it’s so stable)🔹 The software tools that make it scale🔹 Why risk-adjusted returns on land outperform most active deals🔹 How to build a land portfolio with passive investors🔹 What brokers are missing when they ignore this modelWhether you’re a broker, investor, or someone searching for the most boring, beautiful way to build wealth — this is your sign to start looking at dirt.🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 More episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking👤 More on Quinn and Legacy Land Fund: https://www.legacylandfund.com/#LandInvesting #PassiveIncome #CRE #RealEstateInvesting #CommercialRealEstateThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode👨🏫Legacy Land Fund: https://www.legacylandfund.com/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com00:00:00 - Welcome00:03:05 - How Bo and Quinn Met00:04:14 - Quinn’s Unique Onramp Into Commercial Real Estate00:05:46 - The Green Beret’s00:09:51 - Why Timmy Didn’t Join The Military00:11:18 - Quinn’s Real Estate Mentor00:13:53 - AD - CRE Investor Coach (Link in Shownotes), Site To Do Business https://stdb.com00:15:08 - The Lure of Passive Land Investing00:16:19 - The Secret Freedom Of Land Investing00:19:34 - Why Come To You And Not A Traditional Bank or Mortgage Company00:21:10 - An Example Of A Smaller Deal00:22:56 - The Birth Of Legacy Land Fund00:23:48 - How To Get In On This?00:24:59 - Accredited vs Sophisticated Investor - Explained for Timmy00:27:32 - The Legacy Land Fund Model00:31:08 - Testing Timmy’s Understanding So Far00:38:04 - Is it a Stock Market Alternative?00:39:56 - Can You Drip Your Profits Back In?00:41:09 - What’s The Risk?00:43:02 - AD - Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:44:11 - How Has Your Faith Shaped Your Business?00:45:15 - In The Service Of Vets00:46:13 - It’s So Simple, Timmy Understood Quicker Than Bo Did00:48:04 - Being Able To Offer A More Stable Play00:50:20 - What Do The Taxes Look Like?00:53:12 - The Due Diligence On The Other Side Of The Deal.00:57:58 - This Came From My Own Personal Pain Points01:02:48 - Pop Quiz01:15:06 - Outro | — | ||||||
| 9/16/25 |  How She Built an $800M CRE Portfolio Without Being a Broker | Whitney Elkins-Hutten | Everyone talks about building wealth through real estate.Whitney Elkins-Hutten actually does it.As the Director of Investor Education at PassiveInvesting.com, Whitney has helped guide more than $800M in assets under management — and in this episode, she breaks down how passive investing actually works, who it’s for, and why so many brokers miss the bigger wealth picture.We cover:🔹 Why being a GP isn’t always the smartest path🔹 How to vet passive deals (and operators)🔹 The 3 pillars of long-term investor confidence🔹 Mistakes LPs make (and how to avoid them)🔹 Where the best investors put their money nextIf you’re a broker, GP, or someone who’s done all the work but not built the wealth — this episode will change how you think.🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 Watch all episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking👩💼 More on Whitney: https://www.passiveinvestingwithwhitney.com/ YT: @passiveinvestingdotcom (Passive Investing Made Simple)#PassiveInvesting #CRE #CommercialRealEstate #RealEstateInvesting #WealthBuildingThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode👨🏫CI102 — https://www.ccim.com/education/ccim-institute-student-tools/find-course?start[date]=&end[date]=&keyword=&sort_bef_combine=default_DESC&title[2756]=2756📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com00:00:00 - Cold Open00:00:47 - Welcome00:03:46 - You just handed a 25 year old kid $52,000!?00:07:06 - The Scaling Problem of Residential00:08:42 - Active to Passive Income00:10:47 - Explaining Capital Stack for Timmy00:12:44 - AD - CRE Investor Coach (Link in Shownotes), Site To Do Business https://stdb.com00:14:00 - Tell Us About Your First CRE Conference.00:15:17 - Tragedy Strikes00:18:52 - Whitney’s 5 Freedoms00:24:07 - Bo’s 4 Freedoms00:25:24 - How Do You Define Generational Wealth?00:26:04 - Is Generational Wealth A Bad Thing?00:27:35 - Teaching Your Kids About Money00:36:46 - Portfolio Instability00:38:42 - The Problem With So Much Financial Information00:39:09 - P&L vs Balance Sheet00:40:44 - The Strategies To Win The Wealth Game00:42:47 - The Importance Of Tracking Every Cent00:43:44 - How To Get Over The Fear Of Math00:44:46 - People Taking Up My Time00:46:45 - Strategy > Tactic00:48:15 - Create, Keep, Grow, Pass On00:50:17 - One Of The Problems With 1031 Tax Exchange00:51:43 - Understanding Your Goal and Risk Capacity00:53:12 - Ask Yourself The Important Questions00:55:37 - How Do You Want to Feel When We Achieve X?00:59:44 - Is It Hard To Get A Man To Talk About Feeling?01:01:34 - Bo Geeks Out On AI’s Potential To Help Answer These Questions01:03:44 - Put Your Wants Into Containers01:04:58 - Tackle Income Last01:06:11 - Pop Quiz01:13:36 - Connect With Whitney01:16:52 - Like, Comment, Share, Love ya! | — | ||||||
| 9/9/25 |  The Tool 95% of CRE Pros Don’t Use Right (But Should) | Site To Do Business with Ben Wilson | What if your best CRE hire was already in your toolkit… and you were barely using it?This week we’re joined by Ben Wilson, the guy who trains the instructors who teach brokers how to use Site To Do Business (STDB) — the most powerful (and most underused) platform in commercial real estate.We dig into:🔹 The biggest mistakes brokers make with STDB🔹 How to use trade areas, drive times & custom maps to win business🔹 Real-life case studies of deals unlocked through the platform🔹 The difference between “using it” and using it right🔹 Tools even CCIMs often missIf you’ve ever opened STDB and thought “Where do I even start?” — this episode is for you.🎧 Hosted by Timmy Barron & Bo Barron📺 Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking💡 Learn more about STDB: https://www.stdb.com#CRE #CCIM #STDB #CommercialRealEstate #BrokerTools📺 Subscribe for more episodes weekly🔗 Learn more: subscribe.wgbarron.comThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode👨🏫CI102 — https://www.ccim.com/education/ccim-institute-student-tools/find-course?start[date]=&end[date]=&keyword=&sort_bef_combine=default_DESC&title[2756]=2756📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:01 - Welcome00:02:55 - Bo Has A Confession00:04:39 - Why Timmy Love STDB00:05:33 - Who Uses STDB?00:07:23 - How Ben Wilson Fell Into His Role At STDB00:08:16 - What Does It Cost To Access STDB?00:09:20 - AD - CRE Investor Coach (https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl), Site To Do Business https://stdb.com00:10:35 - Bo Presents The Scenario For Our Demo00:12:52 - Looking At The Top Performing Locations of COhatch00:14:54 - Searching Within a 3 min Drive Time00:16:58 - The Tapestry Profile00:18:38 - Points of Interest Search00:21:54 - Let’s Look At The Lower Performing COhatch in Duluth00:23:56 - COhatch Will Not Go Down Town00:26:08 - No Easy Access To An Airport?00:29:52 - Creating A Custom Variable (The Psychographic Cocktail Mixer)00:32:04 - The Hexagon Map (Me Want Honeycomb)00:36:52 - Single Location Vs Multiple In the Same Market?00:39:00 - AD - Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:39:39 - How The Tapestry Chart Is Organized00:41:33 - What Do You See, Bo?00:44:32 - Can It Tell Me What Markets To Look At?00:48:01 - Why This Tool Is A Broker’s Superpower!00:50:50 - CI10200:52:39 - How Will AI Change The Way STDB Is Used?00:58:55 - You Might Be Working Yourself Out Of A Job01:00:58 - Data Discovery Tool01:07:14 - Vancouver!01:08:30 - How To Contact Ben Wilson01:09:03 - Outro | — | ||||||
| 9/2/25 |  Meet the Woman Behind CRE’s Biggest Brands | MoVo Media Marketing's Mo Regalado and Fly Jamerson | Everyone knows the names Knakal, Santomassimo, and Azor… but do you know the woman behind their content?In this episode, we sit down with Mo Regalado, founder of Movo Media, and her content strategist Fly Jamerson, to pull back the curtain on how CRE’s most respected professionals build their online presence — and how you can too.We talk:🔹 What brokers are doing wrong on LinkedIn🔹 Why you are your brand (not your brokerage)🔹 How Mo became the content voice of CRE royalty🔹 The Fly test: Would you actually watch this?🔹 The #1 thing you need to grow on socialWhether you’re a new broker, seasoned investor, or just want to get noticed in CRE — this one’s for you.🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 Subscribe for more episodes weekly🔗 Learn more: subscribe.wgbarron.comThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode🌟Movo Media Marketing: MovoMediaMarketing.com🔗 Follow Fly and Mo: @TheMoRegalado, @hey_itsfly📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:16 - Welcome00:05:02 - The Woman Behind Bob Knakal’s, Beth Azor’s and Rod Santomassimo’s Socials00:06:37 - Getting Fired for Calling Somebody a “Douche Canoe”00:09:36 - The Beth Azor Interview00:12:28 - AD - CRE Investor Coach (Link in Shownotes), Site To Do Business https://stdb.com00:13:44 - How Much Level Of Control Do You Have?00:15:31 - Why Bo And Timmy Have A Podcast00:16:56 - When Did Fly Arrive?00:20:27 - Most Common Social Media Mistakes You See Broker’s Make00:20:45 - 1. Posting & Ghosting00:22:06 - Is Youtube Considered Social Media?00:23:54 - 2. Not Being ‘Social” On Social Media00:25:26 - Advertising Vs Content Marketing00:28:11 - The 1st Thing You Should Do To Start00:28:35 - Identify Your Audience00:29:03 - Create 5 Content Pillars (Buckets)00:29:21 - Deal Stories00:30:08 - Personal Interests00:31:45 - Voice Memos00:33:00 - Have Fun! (ie Bob Knakal Hot Tub Video)00:34:42 - Dealing with The Haters00:39:31 - Give it 90 Days00:45:08 - The Conduit btw Interest & Conversion00:46:55 - AD - Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:47:34 - Conversations Your Having With Prospects & Clients Should Be The Content You Create For Social Media00:49:51 - How To End Your Piece Of Content00:53:07 - You Have To Start00:55:22 - Critiquing How Bo Engages With Social Media01:00:40 - Followers Don’t Matter Anymore!01:04:41 - Monroe’s Motivated Sequence01:08:57 - Provide Value and The 3 Es: Education, Entertain, Engage01:11:49 - We Connect With Humans, Dumb Ass01:13:32 - What Is The Point? Why Do Social Media?01:19:36 - Being Well Known Makes Everything Easier!01:21:25 - https://MoVoMediaMarketing.com01:23:59 - Rapid Fire Questions01:27:12 - Final Word01:28:00 - Outro | — | ||||||
| 8/26/25 |  AI Just Leveled Up Again. Here’s What CRE Pros Need to Know. | Michael Hironimus is BACK! | Recorded live, this AI-packed episode breaks down the latest tools actually moving the needle for commercial real estate brokers, investors, and analysts.Michael Hironimus is back to share what’s changed since GPT-4 and where things are heading next. From lead gen to underwriting, pitch decks to property tours — if you’re not using these tools, you’re already behind.We cover:✅ New AI tools CRE pros are adopting fast✅ Real-time data integrations (and why they matter)✅ The gap between automation & analysis — and how to close it✅ Why brokers using AI are eating everyone else's lunch✅ Michael’s go-to stack and live Q&A with the audienceAI isn’t the threat. Other brokers using AI are.🧠 Learn more about Michael: https://superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking🔗 Watch past episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking—🧢 Hosted by Timmy Barron & Bo Barron🎧 New episodes weekly#CRE #AI #MichaelHironimus #CommerciallySpeaking #PropTech #GPT5Thanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode7 Day AI For CRE Challenge: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vR7Lr9M-0xVZVIhCilK1A1TvxgSUUG_7L9zfdyIxNFXwTHUA0dOjXNTVOLjPIOQAeYNOWddnMrkXdu9/pub🔗 Follow Michael on X: @Mike_Hironimus10% OFF Michael’s Ai Course when you use the code: CSPOD https://www.implementingaiincre.com/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com00:00:00 - Cold Open00:00:51 - Intro00:02:31 - Upcoming CCIM Course In Angel’s Envy00:05:40 - ChatGPT-500:15:32 - Claude MCP Servers00:24:30 - Bo Thinks Through CRE Use Cases for MCP Servers00:29:50 - How Timmy Uses AI For Thumbnails and to Animate Photos00:31:15 - Perplexity’s New “Comet” Browser00:38:46 - Automating Entire Workflows with Agentic AI00:47:00 - AD - Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:47:40 - An Avalanche Of Automation00:52:02 - Perplexity’s Bid For Google Chrome00:54:49 - NotebookLM00:55:22 - NotebookLM’s Video Overviews01:01:06 - Study & Learn Feature01:05:56 - GPT - Create a Pop Quiz for the podcast Commercially Speaking01:14:24 - Rapid Fire Questions For Michael01:21:46 - ImplementingAIinCRE.com - Use Code: “CSPOD” for 10% OFF01:21:59 - Outro | — | ||||||
| 8/19/25 |  He Cold Called His Way to 2,000 Units (Then Gave 20% Away) | with Joe Huber | What happens when a guy with a physics degree, a Vespa scooter, and a philanthropic mission starts cold calling property owners?Joe Huber, founder of Huber Equity Group, joins us to share how he built a 2,000+ unit multifamily portfolio almost entirely off-market — and why he gives away 20% of profits to fight childhood trauma and water insecurity.We talk:How 150,000 cold calls a year fuels his deal flowWhy "digging for basis" is his favorite investing philosophyThe power of walking away from the right dealWhat it's like to raise $5M for a deal — during COVIDWhy his company fights for profits just to give them awayThis one’s about more than real estate. It’s about building wealth on purpose.🔗 Learn more: HuberEquity.com🎧 Subscribe for more episodes like this every week.Thanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📌 Learn more about Joe: https://huberequitygroup.com/My Village Ministries: https://myvillageministries.com/Design Outreach: Elevating Global Poverty https://doutreach.org/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com💰Hearthstone Capital Fund: Investing in CRE With Purpose: https://hearthstonecre.com/🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:03 - Welcome00:02:40 - Welcome Joe Huber00:04:28 - How I Met Joe00:05:25 - Going from 1 to 2,000 Units00:11:36 - AD - CRE Investor Coach, Site To Do Business stdb.com00:12:50 - Digging For Basis00:15:54 - Losses Hurt More Than Gains Help00:18:52 - How did you know about house flipping?00:21:47 - The Off-Market Strategy00:23:11 - I Got Instant Feedback On Pricing00:24:32 - Vespa Scooter Accidents00:27:54 - One of the Best Deal We Didn’t Do00:30:41 - Bo Breaks It Down For Timmy00:32:00 - We’re Making Sausage00:33:06 - Execution With A Scalpel00:34:39 - Joe’s Secret To Cold Calling00:37:37 - Bo’s Best Cold Open Ever00:40:26 - AD - Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:41:05 - S.o H.appy I.t’s T.hursDay00:43:10 - Transparency When Cold Calling00:43:56 - Why Give 20% Of Your Profits?00:46:22 - We Want To Give Even More!00:48:13 - The Causes We Support: 1. My Village00:52:46 - 2. Design Outreach00:59:04 - Fixing The Malfunctions Of The Wells01:00:17 - Huber Equity Has Inspired Hearthstone To Give01:03:11 - We Want To Make More Of An Impact With The Families In Our Units01:05:45 - Future Goals01:09:01 - CRE Is Not All Evil Like In The Movies01:12:27 - Pop Quiz01:17:42 - Outro01:18:40 - Shoutouts | — | ||||||
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