
Drinking From the Toilet: Real dogs, Real training
by Hannah Branigan
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Protected Contact Isn't Just Management.
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The Matching Law: What It Is, What It Isn't, and Why It Matters | Hannah Branigan
May 14, 2026
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Is Positive Reinforcement Actually Slower? (A Hot Take, Revisited) | Hannah Branigan
May 7, 2026
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Can you use a leash and still be force free? | Hannah Branigan
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Training Faster Behaviors Without Frustration, Part 2 | Hannah Branigan
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 9/15/26 | Protected Contact Isn't Just Management. | Protected contact gets filed under zoo training, the thing you do when your learner can eat you. Hannah used to think that way too, right up until she noticed she'd been quietly using barriers with dogs and horses for years and getting far more out of them than safety. In this solo episode she makes the case that a fence, an ex pen, or a PVC pole on the ground is a training accelerator, not a consolation prize, and walks through how to fade one down to almost nothing while keeping every benefit. Key Takeaways: The matching law describes behavior as proportional to reinforcement, but real life is messier than the original equation suggests: Variables like reinforcer quality, difficulty of the behavior, and delay of reinforcement all affect outcomes in ways the simple version of the law doesn't account for. Reinforcer value matters as much as reinforcement rate: A less frequent but more valuable reinforcer can outweigh a higher rate of a less valuable one. You can use this intentionally to load one side of the scale in your favor. If your dog prefers an easier behavior even when the harder one pays better, your criteria may have jumped too fast: Dogs, like students given two stacks of math problems, will gravitate toward what's more fluent. That preference is useful diagnostic information. Delayed discounting is real and shows up in training: The longer the gap between behavior and reinforcement, the less influence the reinforcer has. Getting the treat out of the jeans pocket slowly is not the same as getting it from your hand quickly, and your dog's behavior reflects that. Matching law doesn't excuse us from timing and mechanics: Understanding the principle is useful. Using it as a reason to stop troubleshooting your delivery is not. — About the Host Hannah Branigan is a teacher, trainer, podcaster, and author of Awesome Obedience and its companion field guide. She is a Certified Professional Dog Trainer (CPDT) and a faculty member at the Karen Pryor Academy for Animal Training and Behavior. Her work is grounded in applied behavioral science and focused on helping serious dog trainers build better skills through positive reinforcement. Keep up with Hannah and find all her work and resources here: Website: hannahbranigan.dog Podcast: hannahbranigan.dog/dog-training-podcast/ Program: hannahbranigan.dog/z2cd/ Instagram: instagram.com/hannah_branigan/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPh-msUZUNJksIAu2zDTQhQ | 34m 25s | ||||||
| 5/14/26 | matching lawbehavioral principle+3 | — | — | — | matching lawreinforcement+5 | — | 42m 11s | ||
| 5/7/26 | positive reinforcementdog training+3 | — | — | — | positive reinforcementdog training+3 | — | 40m 19s | ||
| 4/16/26 | force-free trainingleash training+3 | — | — | — | force-free trainingleash+3 | — | 20m 29s | ||
| 8/27/24 | dog trainingbehavior modification+3 | — | — | — | dog trainingbehavior speed+3 | — | 32m 03s | ||
| 8/23/24 | training behaviorsspeed vs latency+3 | — | — | — | dog trainingbehavior speed+3 | Patreon | 54m 34s | ||
| 8/15/24 | dog trainingavoidance strategies+4 | — | — | — | dog trainingavoidance+5 | Zero to CD | 44m 58s | ||
| 2/28/24 | dog trainingdrilling+5 | — | www.metconference.comwww.hannahbranigan.dog | — | drillingdog training+5 | MET Conference 2024 | 34m 23s | ||
| 2/12/24 | demand barkingdog training+3 | Kiki Yablon | Signaled Differential Reinforcement of Other Behavior to Address Excessive Vocalization in Dogs | — | demand barkingdog training+5 | MET Conference 2024 | 2h 01m 46s | ||
| 2/2/24 | demand barkingstimulus control+5 | — | — | — | demand barkingstimulus control+5 | MET Conference 2024 | 46m 03s | ||
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| 1/18/24 | Demand Barkingdog training+3 | — | — | — | demand barkingdog behavior+3 | MET Conference 2024 | 44m 49s | ||
| 10/19/23 | #180: Building Food Drive and Nuanced Reinforcement with Ashlee Osborn | In this episode we discuss the importance of getting really, really good at working with reinforcement, how the topic of reinforcement and using it in training is FAR more nuanced than most trainers recognize, food is probably the most convenient reinforcement but it does require specific conditioning and strategies to use effectively in training, Ashlee's game, Clockwork - a fancy application of treat tossing that specifies where and when to toss for clients, and building motivation for food even when dogs are really just not into it. For full show notes, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/180 This podcast is supported by Zero to CD: www.zerotocd.com | 1h 41m 39s | ||||||
| 10/5/23 | #179: More Strategies to Reduce Errors | In the last episode, we talked about what errorless learning really means. And I shared a few strategies that might make it easier to apply in your training. Of course, the major benefit to using errorless learning concepts in your training is the outcome of behaviors with a cleaner learning history and less emotional baggage. Of course, we don't want attempts to avoid errors to mean we also avoid making progress. We still want to get where we're going, just with fewer wrong turns. In this episode we discuss behavioral momentum, using behavioral momentum to avoid a lack of response to your cues (a common form of error), the importance of starting with low criteria and be in a position to raise that criteria quickly, rather than starting with an error and being forced to lower that criteria (Thanks, Bob Bailey!), examples from starting a heeling session, to working with distance on go outs, to teaching a pony to move forward on cue, using an indirect, "lateral" approach to selecting your criteria to avoid hammering on the most fragile aspect of a behavior you are trying to train, examples include teaching hold with duration (after breaking it), and working around emotionally-loaded challenges with heeling or loose-leash walking, and probably other things I forgot! For full show notes, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/179 This podcast is supported by Zero to CD: www.zerotocd.com | 41m 03s | ||||||
| 7/21/23 | #178: How to Apply Errorless Learning Principles in Practical Training Sessions | In his 1968 book, The Technology of Teaching, B.F. Skinner wrote: Errors are not a function of learning or vice-versa nor are they blamed on the learner. Errors are a function of poor analysis of behavior, a poorly designed shaping program, moving too fast from step to step in the program and the lack of the prerequisite behavior necessary for success in the program. - BF Skinner And that sounds great. It also sounds like a lot of pressure on the dog trainer. Never fear! In this episode, we discuss what errorless learning actually means and how to apply the principles in our real life training sessions. In this episode, we discuss the original research on errorless learning by Dr. H.S. Terrace form 1963, what is the difference between errorless training and trial-and-error trainings?, why we care about training with errors - what's in it for us dog trainers?, designing our training sessions so that we don't rely on extinction as a training tool, and in fact actively structure our sessions to minimize our dogs' experience of extinction, strategies allow us to train more errorlessly (fading in discriminations - early and often, using back-chaining, even when shaping small behaviors, introducing a new element between the click and the treat, setting your minimum criteria to earn a click to behaviors your dog is doing frequently, and avoid raising criteria to something your dog has never done, or only done once). For full show notes, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/178 This podcast is supported by Patreon: www.patreon.com/DFTT | 41m 36s | ||||||
| 6/23/23 | #177: Dr. Clive Wynne Says Some Controversial Things About Dominance | In this episode, we discuss what is the ethological definition of dominance?, how does dominance show up in behavior?, how might dominance be relevant in dog training?, differences in dog-dog vs dog-human relationships, and does dominance require aggression or punishment? For full show notes, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/177 This podcast is supported by Patreon: www.patreon.com/DFTT | 1h 26m 43s | ||||||
| 6/6/23 | #176: Taking Short Cuts with Stimulus-Stimulus Pairing with Kiki Yablon | In this episode, we discuss what is stimulus-stimulus pairing and how it works?, what is a "classically conditioned recall" and why might we consider calling it something different, revisiting the differences and interplay between operant and classical conditioning, the difference between describing a procedure and describing a process, and lots and lots of examples of how to apply this concept in different training applications. For full show notes, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/176 This podcast is supported by Patreon: www.patreon.com/DFTT | 1h 48m 43s | ||||||
| 5/19/23 | #175: Over the Top - High Arousal in Dogs | In this episode, we discuss what is arousal?, how does arousal show up in our training?, how does arousal affect both people and dogs?, how arousal affects reinforcers, and "eating as behavior" and how to build functional food drive with a dog that won't eat. For full show notes and transcript, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/175 This podcast is supported by Control Unleashed Over the Top Workshop for High Arousal Dogs: www.cleanrun.com | 1h 12m 45s | ||||||
| 4/26/23 | #174: Families with Dogs and Kids with Jennifer Shryock | In this episode, we discuss the most important thing for dog professionals to know about working with families, the importance of understanding developmental milestones, working with and setting expectations, finding ways for children to safely participate in training, and the importance of providing support to families and especially mothers. For full show notes and transcript, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/174 This podcast is supported by Zero to CD: hannahbranigan.dog/z2cd/ | 1h 12m 58s | ||||||
| 3/2/23 | #173: Dealing with Problem Behaviors - Using Alternate Behaviors | In this episode, we discuss that the first step to dealing with a problem behavior is to identify the function, figuring out a plan to control access if possible and practical, if that reinforcer is not practical to work with, identifying a substitute reinforcer that is as close as possible to the original, choosing your alternate behavior, strategies if you are teaching the alternate behavior from scratch, deciding if you'll be using differential reinforcement, and if you are not planning to use differential reinforcement, planning to setup the environment for (mostly) errorless learning. For full show notes and transcript, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/173 This podcast is supported by MET Conference 2023: www.metconference.com/ | 50m 44s | ||||||
| 2/14/23 | #172: How to Tell That Your Classical Conditioning Plan is Working | When we pair two stimuli together as part of a classical conditioning training plan, it can sometimes be hard to determine when the association has been made between the old stimulus and the new stimulus… the "food" and the "bell", to draw from a popular example. In this episode, I answer a question submitted by a patron with some ideas on what to look for to determine if that association is strong enough and it's time to proceed to the next step. In this episode, we discuss quick review of conditioned emotional response, what happens when you pair a reinforcer with a stimulus in the environment, using this strategy to build a specific, positive CER in a training session, a recap of Lindsay Wood Brown's work on resource guarding, and applying this strategy to stimulus-stimulus pairing with scent. For full show notes and transcript, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/172 This podcast is supported by MET Conference 2023: www.metconference.com/ | 25m 45s | ||||||
| 2/6/23 | #171: Maintenance Mode | In this episode, we discuss, when you might outsource maintenance to the environment?, functional difference between intrinsic and extrinsic reinforcers in maintaining behaviors, how easy it is for behaviors to start slipping before we notice, one way to avoid or minimize that slippage is to design a rotation, start by grabbing some behaviors or exercises that matter to you, then give yourself a time frame to rotate through those behaviors (I usually use a 2 week block), and starting with your item at the top of the rotation for today (do a test run for the purposes of seeing where you're at, identify either something that is weak now that you are looking at it OR a way you could do something differently, make yourself a little session to work on that thing). For full show notes and transcript, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/171 This podcast is supported by MET Conference 2023: www.metconference.com/ | 33m 56s | ||||||
| 1/26/23 | #170: How To Avoid Too Much Drilling | In this episode, we discuss tradeoffs when using systematic "drills" to isolate specific aspects of an exercise, drills help us isolate specific aspects of an exercise and give us the advantage of Deliberate Practice for expertise, what is meant by "fun"?, play and fun often introduce more variability as well as a dialogue, strategies to protect myself from myself, using "play sandwiches" to break up a session, training overlapping skills in the same session, and using "different-but-not-harder" creatively for novelty and flexibility. For full show notes and transcript, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/170 This podcast is supported by MET Conference 2023: www.metconference.com/ | 40m 41s | ||||||
| 1/9/23 | #169: Advocating For Your Dog with Erin Moore | In this episode, we discuss what inspired Erin's Tiktok, what advocating for our dogs even means, why does it matter?, what gets in the way?, how does trauma affect our ability to advocate?, what societal factors may be in play?, and how can we support ourselves and each other? For full show notes and transcript, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/169 This podcast is supported by Karen Pryor Clicker Training's Brand-New On Cue! Training Treats: clickertraining.com/treats | 1h 53m 28s | ||||||
| 12/14/22 | #168: Things That Are Saving My Life Right Now | In this episode, we discuss why everything is hard (just kidding, no answers here. Why IS everything so hard?); behaviors, routines, and material acquisitions that are helping take the edge off; behaviors that reduce my daily annoyance level and make it easier to enjoy my dogs (stationing/crating from a distance, putting their own collars on, picking up my ear buds when they fall, especially under furniture, Cavaletti, front and back paw targets); routines (nail trimmers on same hook as leashes, feeding out of slow feeders, Zoom training meetups); and material acquisitions (dry erase sleeves, pony jet, Bissel machine, slime flat tire machine). For full show notes and transcript, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/168 This podcast is supported by Karen Pryor Clicker Training's Brand-New On Cue! Training Treats: clickertraining.com/treats | 51m 17s | ||||||
| 12/5/22 | #167: What is Ethics About and Why Should We Care? | In this episode, we discuss what are "ethics" and why should we care?, can we answer the question "am I a good person?, how can we measure welfare?, the five freedoms/five domains of welfare, every animal has right to freedom from, hunger, thirst, discomfort/injury, and to express normal behavior, guidelines for beneficence: even if some good comes, can't outweigh the harm done to the group that were subjects. "Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one." - Marcus Aurelius For full show notes and transcript, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/167 This podcast is supported by Karen Pryor Clicker Training's Brand-New On Cue! Training Treats: clickertraining.com/treats | 2h 03m 20s | ||||||
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Peaked at #2 in Canada, top 10 in 5 of 28 tracked markets, currently #2 in Canada.
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| United Kingdom | — | #5 | #5 | — |
| New Zealand | — | #6 | #6 | — |
| United States | — | #7 | #7 | — |
| Italy | — | #9 | #9 | — |
| Mexico | — | #13 | #13 | — |
| South Africa | — | #21 | #21 | — |
| Finland | — | #22 | #22 | — |
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| Denmark | — | #26 | #26 | — |
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| Sweden | — | #37 | #37 | — |
| CZ | — | #60 | #60 | — |
| Italy | — | #64 | #64 | — |
| Netherlands | — | #69 | #69 | — |
| Norway | — | #69 | #69 | — |
| TW | — | #85 | #85 | — |
| Spain | — | #89 | #89 | — |
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28 placements across 24 markets.
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28 placements across 24 markets.