Let's Go To Court!

Wipe your slate clean of everything you *think* you know about the pet rock. You’ll marble (err, marvel) over its true history! Its inventor, Gary Dahl, thought he’d created a novelty gift that was set in stone. Imagine his surprise when the pet rock’s popularity began to crumble. Maybe he shouldn’t have taken it for granite? Ehh?? Get it??In this episode, Kristin also addresses the often-asked question about whether she’s still friends with her former Let’s Go To Court co-host. Remember, kids, history hoes always cite their sources! For this episode, Norm pulled from: “Amazon.Com: Pet Rock - The Original by Gary Dahl : Pet Supplies.” Accessed July 10, 2025. https://www.amazon.com/Pet-Rock-Authentic-Approved-Original/dp/B07KN9FK4BBredt, Ted. “Has Success Spoiled ‘pet Rock’ Potentate? Outside of 3 Houses, 4 Mercedes Benzes, and the Best Saloon in Los Gatos, No.” The Salt Lake Tribune, February 20, 1977.Coakley, Michael. “The Anatomy of a Fad: Pet Rock.” The Boston Globe, February 26, 1976.Curtin, Andrew. “A Million-Dollar Pet Project.” San Francisco Examiner, December 25, 1975.Dahl, Gary. “Why Didn’t I Think of That! At a Bar One Day, Gary Dahl Dreamed up the Pet Rock.” Courier Post, October 10, 1982.Giuca, Linda. “Are You Sure It Won’t Bite?” Hartford Courant, December 17, 1975.Horning, Jay. “Pet Rock Secured a Solid Future for Its ‘Father.’” Tampa Bay Times, May 9, 1982.“How a Los Gatos Barroom Boast Led to the Pet Rock and Followed Gary Dahl until His Dying Day.” The Mercury News, April 3, 2015. https://www.mercurynews.com/2015/04/03/how-a-los-gatos-barroom-boast-led-to-the-pet-rock-and-followed-gary-dahl-until-his-dying-day/.Isaacs, Stan. “Teen’s Idea Was as Solid as a Rock.” Newsday (Nassau Edition), November 21, 1975.LaBelle, Tom. “Career Opportunity of a Lifetime!” The Grand Rapids Press, October 13, 1976.Leap, Barbara. “From Little Rocks, Some Big Fortunes Grow.” Courier Post, December 5, 1975.Legacy.Com. “Gary Dahl Obituary (1936 - 2015) - San Jose, CA - AL.Com (Mobile).” Accessed July 11, 2025. https://obits.al.com/us/obituaries/mobile/name/gary-dahl-obituary?pid=174533679.Mason, Margaret. “It Was a Gamble, a Risk. But the Pet Rock Paid Off.” Pensacola News Journal, December 25, 1977.McKinney, Joan. “‘Rock Bottom’ Goes Sky High.” Oakland Tribune, December 25, 1975.“Pet Rock Page.” Accessed July 10, 2025. https://www.virtualpet.com/vp/farm/petrock/petrock.htm.Po1sonator. “TIL about the craze of Pet Rocks in 1975. For about 6 months, they sold over one million Pet Rocks for $4 each. It was just a rock in a box with some straw and a care manual for tricks to teach. The creator had the idea in a bar as his friends complained about their pets.” Reddit Post. R/Todayilearned, February 2, 2021. https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/lajcy8/til_about_the_craze_of_pet_rocks_in_1975_for/.“Press Release.” April 5, 2002. https://web.archive.org/web/20020405084047/http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/english/2000win.htm.Robertson, Blair. “The Pet Rock: A Classic Tale of American Business.” Carroll County Times, December 7, 1999.Rock Island Argus. “Pet Rock Promoter Opens Own Saloon.” March 6, 1977.Spokane Chronicle. “Stoned? Pet Rocks Need Little Care, Love.” November 7, 1975.The Desert Sun. “From the Man Who Brought You Pet Rock...” October 4, 1978.The Pet Rock: A Classic Tale of American Business. n.d.

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!Bill Mowbray was *the* Cadillac dealer in Brownsville, Texas. His dealership spanned five acres. His financial success seemed undeniable. He had a massive home. He had two condos on the beach. He owned exotic birds. But beneath the surface, Bill struggled. He had a spending problem. He had multiple affairs. He struggled with suicidal ideation. So, when he died from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot, investigators didn’t immediately question his wife, Freda Susie Mowbray.And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“Death of a Salesman” episode Accident Suicide or Murder“Where the Blood Drops” episode Forensic Files“Susie Mowbray: Stalled Heart” by Rebecca Reisner, forensicfilesnow.com“‘I Didn’t Do It!’ Texas Wife Yells In Court — Was Her Husband's Death Murder Or Suicide?” By Joe Dziemianowicz, oxygen.com“Son’s Quest May Set His Mother Free 8 Years After Her Murder Conviction” by Pauline Arrillaga, Los Angeles Times“After 9 Years in Prison, Woman Is Acquitted in Husband's Death” by The Associated Press, The New York Times“Retrial Set for Woman Jailed in Mate’s Death” by Pauline Arrillaga, Los Angeles Times“After 9 years' in jail, woman cleared in death” Tampa Bay Times“Mowbray v. Cameron County Texas” findlaw.comYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 55+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!Allen Roberts returned home, annoyed. A man named Sam Wagner had set up an appointment with him to talk about purchasing some land. Allen had gone out to meet Sam, but the man never showed. Now Allen found himself back home and, strangely, alone. His wife, Martha “Doe” Roberts was nowhere to be found. That was unlike her. She never left the house without at least writing a note. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“Hold the Line” episode Hometown Homicide“A Tale of a Lethal Friendship and How It Led to A Cruel Murder” by The Mystique, Medium“Martha Doe Roberts” unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com“Husband vows to pay ransom for missing wife” Associate Press, The Tennessean “Neighborhood Watch: The Kidnapping of Doe Roberts” podcast episode, True Crime Campfire“State v. Lord” casetext.comYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 55+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!Jason Young called his sister-in-law in a panic. He told her that he’d been looking on Ebay for a purse to buy for his wife Michelle. Like a dummy, he’d printed out a few of the purses he’d been eyeballing, and then he’d left the papers in the printer and gone out of town for a business trip. He worried that Michelle would spot the printouts and ruin the surprise. Jason’s sister-in-law, Meredith Fisher, agreed to help out. But when Meredith arrived at the home, she sensed that something was amiss.And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“Michelle Young” chillingcrimes.com“Silent Witness” episode Dateline“Michelle Young Murder: Husband Arrested Three Years After N.C. Mom's Death” ABC News“After Three Years Young Is Charged With Murder” by Lenora Carver, The Transylvania Times“Jason Young Gets Life in Prison for Wife's Murder” ABC News“Michelle Young murder case timeline of events” WRAL News“Jason Young's daughter spoke of him during 911 call” WRAL News“No third murder trial for Jason Young” by Travis Fain, WRAL News“State of North Carolina v. Jason Lynn Young” findlaw.comYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 55+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!IT’S HAPPENING!!! *THE* Ellyn Marsh and *THE* Joey Taranto from the fantastic podcast, I Think Not! joined us for a very special episode!Like any good host, Brandi served up what she does best… a kidnapping… AUSTRALIAN STYLE! Well, she doesn’t *do* the kidnappings, she just tells about the kidnappings. And this one is a doozy. The kidnapping of Carolynne Watson and Julian Buchwald involves roadkill, a hate group, and a very creepy, very predatory boyfriend. We suggest you buckle up.And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“Case 07: Julian Buchwald & Carolynne Watson” podcast episode, Casefile“KIDNAPPING: Carolynne Watson” by Natasha Leigh, Medium“Order of Nine Angles” wikipedia.org“Twisted Romeos Darren Saltmarsh and Julian Buchwald turned the search for love to pure terror” by Paul Anderson and True Crime editor, The Herald Sun“Kidnapper Julian Matthias Buchwald uses fake passport photo to flee justice” by Norrie Ross, The Herald Sun“Kidnap case: guilty verdict” by ABC News, abc.net.au“Kidnapper fled to India to avoid jail, court told” by Adrian Lowe, The Sydney Morning Herald“Gippsland man appeals kidnap sentence” by Peta Carlyon, abc.net.au“Fake Indian kidnapper loses appeal” by Andrea Petrie, The Age“Nailed, bailed, jailed then derailed. The bush plot that cost a man his country” by John Silvester, The AgeYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 50+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

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Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!Michelle Boat was livid. Her husband of more than 20 years, Nicholas Boat, wanted a divorce. Nicholas told Michelle that he’d found someone new – a woman named Tracy Mondabough. Michelle began stalking Tracy. She stalked Nicholas, too. She left Nicholas terrifying voicemails in which she threatened to kill Tracy. So, when Tracy was brutally murdered, investigators immediately had a top suspect.And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“Michelle Boat” episode Sleeping With A Killer“Tracy Mondabough” chillingcrimes.com“IA v. Boat (2021)” courttv.com“Trial to begin for murder of Ottumwa woman” by Kyle Ocker, Ottumwa Courier“Woman charged in Pella homicide the estranged wife of victim's boyfriend” by KCCI 8 News, kcci.com“Defense attorney says Boat guilty of manslaughter, not murder” by Kyle Ocker, The Oskaloosa Herald“Jury convicts Michelle Boat of first-degree murder after 45-minute deliberation” by Laura Terrell, KCCI 8 NewsYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 53+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!Melvin Eugene Hanson was dead. The 46-year-old had apparently passed away in his doctor’s office after he’d called to complain about chest pain. Right away, investigators were suspicious. Why had Melvin’s doctor encouraged him to come into the office? Why not tell him to go to the emergency room? Dr. Richard Boggs was quick to provide an answer. He said that Melvin didn’t trust other doctors. But investigators couldn’t shake the feeling that something was off.And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“Blood, Sweats, and Tears” episode The Real Murders of Los Angeles“Mistaken for Dead” episode Forensic Files“After Doctor Claims a Man Died in His Office, Cops Uncover a Murder and $1 Million Insurance Scam” by Joe Dziemianowicz, oxygen.com“Murder-for-insurance scam nearly eluded authorities” by The Associated Press, Lancaster Eagle Gazette“Prosecutors Again Seek Death Sentence for Doctor” by James Quinn, The Los Angeles Times“Doctor gets life for murder scheme” by The Associated Press, North County Times“Killer in Fraud Case Draws Life Sentence : Courts: No chance of parole for businessman Melvin Hanson, who murdered bookkeeper in plan to fake his own death.” By Nancy Hill-Holtzman, The Los Angeles Times“Jurors Split Verdict in Insurance Murder Case” by Nicholas Riccardi and Ann W. O’Neill, The Los Angeles Times“Notorious Swindler Recounts Notorious ‘Just Sweats’ Case, Including His Mysterious Vanishing Act” by 10tv.com, WBNS 10 News“Neurosurgeon Turns Into a Killer to Finance His Life” by Sabana Grande, medium.com“Fraud, Murder, Bike Shorts: A Just Sweats Timeline” by Rebecca Reisner, forensicfilesnow.com“’Just Sweats' fraudster seeks second chance after 2 decades in prison” by Staff Writer, The Columbus Dispatch“People v. Hanson” casemine.comYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 52+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!When Leonila Stickney died from a gunshot wound, her fiance Russell Bertram was quick to provide an explanation. The former police chief told investigators that she’d died in a hunting accident. He explained that she’d been in the passenger’s seat of his truck when he climbed into the driver’s seat. As he climbed in, he’d pointed the gun in her direction. He claimed she’d grabbed the barrel of the gun, keeping it pointed at herself, and leaned in for a kiss. Then the gun went off. He was totally innocent! Nothing to see here! Infuriatingly, investigators bought his story.And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“The Hunter and the Hunted” episode Accident, Suicide or Murder“Jealousy, greed marked 2016 murder trial of former South Dakota police chief Russell Bertram” by Erik Kaufman, Mitchell Republic“Former South Dakota Police Chief Murdered Pregnant Fiancée And Blamed It On An Accident” by Joe Dziemianowicz, oxygen.com“Leonila Stickney” podcast episode, Forensic Tales“Ex-Police Chief Convicted of Murdering Pregnant Fiancée Years After Claiming Her 2009 Death Was an Accident” by KC Baker, people.com“Why would a former police chief kill his young fiancee? Jealousy and greed, prosecutors allege.” By Sarah Larimer, The Washington Post“State v. Bertram” findlaw.comYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 52+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!It was Halloween night. Doreen Erbert and her four-year-old daughter were cuddled up on the couch, watching a movie, when they heard a knock at the door. The knock sounded aggressive, but Doreen got up to answer it. She figured that she was about to encounter an eager trick-or-treater. Instead, she encountered a man in a wolf costume. Just before he attacked her, Doreen yelled to her daughter to hide. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“William Dennis” episode Snapped“JUSTICE STORY: Halloween horror as a masked man murders woman and baby” by Mara Bovsun, New York Daily News“Man In Wolf Mask Hacks Pregnant Ex-Wife To Death With Machete On Halloween Night” by Benjamin H. Smith, oxygen.com“Girl recounts grisly Halloween murders” by Michael Molinski, UPI“Halloween killer found guilty in slaying of wife, unborn child” UPI“Man guilty in murder of ex-wife, unborn child” by Tracie Thompson, The Peninsula Times Tribune“Condemned inmates, victims’ families speak out” by Bay Area News Group and Jessica Calefati, Lake County Record-Bee“People v. Dennis” findlaw.comYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 52+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!Imette St. Guillen wanted to have a good time. Her birthday was just a few days away, so she and a friend went out to celebrate. But when the bar closed and her friend wanted to go home, Imette insisted on staying out. The hard-working graduate student went to the next bar alone. She had no idea she was being watched by a predator.And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“Downtown Disappearance” episode New York Homicide“Imette St. Guillen” chillingcrimes.com“‘The Body Was Ice Cold’: NYC Bar Bouncer Raped, Strangled Grad Student” by Joe Dziemianowicz, oxygen.com“Imette St. Guillen” podcast episode, Women & Crime“The gruesome murder of Imette St. Guillen” by Clint Van Zandt, NBC News“In Bouncer’s Murder Trial, Victim’s Friend Recalls Their Last Night” by Kareem Fahim, The New York Times“People v. Darryl Littlejohn” casetext.com“Murder of Imette St. Guillen” wikipedia.orgYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 51+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!When nine-year-old George Weyerhaeuser went missing, his family panicked. Kidnappings weren’t commonplace, but in 1935, wealthy families were on guard for them. The Great Depression was in full swing, and just a few years earlier, the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby captured the nation’s attention. So, when the Weyerhaeuser’s son didn’t make it home for lunch, they feared the worst. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“Weyerhaeuser Kidnapping” by Daryl C. McClary, historylink.org“The Kidnapping of George Weyerhaeuser | USA” podcast episode, The Evidence Locker“Deep in the Woods” by Bryan Johnston“1935 kidnapping revealed 9-year-old timber heir’s mettle, led to ‘greatest manhunt in history of Northwest’” by Douglas Perry, Oregon Live“History: How the Seattle P-I played a pivotal role in the kidnapping case of George Weyerhaeuser” by Alec Regimbal, SeattePI“George Weyerhaeuser Sr., great-grandson of timber company founder and kidnapped as a child, dies at 95” by Paul Roberts, Seattle TimesYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 51+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon!Alice Anderson was in a state of alarm. Her fifteen year old son, Bruce Brenizer had just called with disturbing information. His father, Rick, was missing. So was his father’s girlfriend, Ruth Berentson. Ruth’s daughters, Mindy and Heidi, along with Bruce’s half-sister, Crystal, had vanished as well. Alice made several phone calls before she determined that it was time to involve the police. Someone needed to find this missing family.And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.In this episode, Brandi pulled from:“The Brenizer/Berentson Family” episode Family Massacre“‘I Did It. I Killed Them All’: 15-Year-Old Shot And Incinerated 5 Family Members” by Joe Dziemianowicz, oxygen.com“The Brenizer Berentson Family” episode Crimelines Podcast“Rumors Fly, But Murders Still A Puzzle” by Rogers Worthington and Chicago Tribune, Chicago Tribune“Deal possible in killing of five” by The Associated Press, Wisconsin State Journal“Two years later, Brenizer relatives seek answers” by The Associated Press, Leader Telegram“Brenizer ruled insane” by The Associated Press, The Oshkosh Northwestern“Life terms for Brenizer in family slayings” by Richard Meryhew, Star Tribune“Appeals Court Says Wis. Killer Should Remain In Mental Hospital” by The Associated Press, CBS News“State v. Bruce C. Brenizer” justia.comYOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 50+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!