
Marketing Operators
Some call it the greatest ecommerce podcast in existence. Behind three behemoth brands stand three juggernauts of the marketing world: Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) & Connor Rolain ...
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- Connor MacDonald4 eps
- Cody Plofker4 eps
- Connor Rolain4 eps
Also: Reza Khadjavi, Varun Kundra, Olivia Kory, Katie Cirulli
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- 🇺🇸United States · MarketingHOME#9817K to 91K
- 🇩🇰DK · Marketing#312K to 62K
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- 🇲🇽Mexico · Marketing#641.3K to 7.1K
- 🇨🇦Canada · Marketing#781.2K to 6.3K
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75K to 398K🇺🇸46%🇩🇰31%🇧🇷8%+7 more - Active Followers
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41K to 219K
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 10/27/26 | How to Track Black Friday Performance & Make Last-Min Budget Calls | “It looks bad in Meta and you’re freaking out, but blended is good.” How far ahead of pace should you be before adding budget on Black Friday? Austin Harrison (CEO, Northbeam) and Andrew Kaszuba (Head of Insights, Northbeam) join Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road Beauty) to break down how ecommerce brands track Black Friday hourly and decide when to push or pull budget. Northbeam’s median brand pulls 42% of Black Friday revenue from earlier touchpoints. When Meta fell short during BFCM 2024, Ridge’s numbers justified pushing AppLovin to about 40% of spend. A strong midday read tempts brands to pour in more, and the extra money can wreck efficiency.Powered By Motion https://9ops.co/motion-runneth Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops Proppel https://9ops.co/weareproppel Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Haus https://9ops.co/haus NeonPixel https://9ops.co/neonpixel Operators Portal https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ | 58m 56s | ||||||
| 10/20/26 | Meta’s Product Director Explains How Its Ad Algorithm Works | “With Andromeda, we can look at the entire universe.” What should marketers focus on now that Meta’s ad algorithm handles targeting? Sukhesh Miryala (Director of Product Management, Meta) sits down with Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) to open up how Meta picks a winner for every impression. Rising CPMs don’t always mean your last change backfired. Meta’s ad prices reflect supply and demand, while Andromeda lets its delivery system consider more ads for each impression. As automation improves, the marketer’s job shifts toward defining what a valuable outcome looks like, supplying reliable data, and building diverse creative that helps Meta find the right match. Powered By Motion https://9ops.co/motion-runneth NeonPixel https://9ops.co/neonpixel Haus https://www.haus.io/operators Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Proppel https://www.weareproppel.com/operators Operators Portal https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ | 57m 54s | ||||||
| 10/16/26 | Meta Reveals Its Plan For AI Media Buying | “All of these products eventually are going to come together.” Who calls the shots once Meta’s AI takes over? Nik Ketkar (Director of Product Management, Meta) sits down with Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) to map Meta’s plan for AI-run media buying. Half of a buyer’s job is still setup, structure, and budget tweaks. Meta wants that half gone, folded into Advantage+ and Ads Creative Studio. Once the AI proposes every move, buyers have to decide how much control to keep. The richer the inputs they feed it, the easier that control is to hand over. Interested in trying Meta's Ads Creative Studio or the other automation products Nik discusses in this episode? Fill out this form: https://9ops.co/meta-adscreativestudio Powered By Motion https://9ops.co/motion-runneth Haus https://www.haus.io/operators NeonPixel https://9ops.co/neonpixel Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops Proppel https://www.weareproppel.com/operators Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Operators Portal https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ | 57m 55s | ||||||
| 10/13/26 | We Compare a $100 DTC Funnel vs a $100M DTC Funnel | “We weren’t doing a good job showing the value.” Where does a new brand find trust when it can’t claim a bestseller like HexClad? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) compare a scaled HexClad funnel with one from the weeks-old Winks. Step by step, they trace how each one builds trust across ads, landers, offers, and upsells. Winks has a premium product, yet customers couldn’t see why it was worth the price. HexClad earns that trust before the click, with Japanese creators and a bestseller hook. The weeks-old brand has to build the same trust with a fraction of the proof. Powered By Motion https://9ops.co/motion-runneth Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Haus https://www.haus.io/operators NeonPixel https://9ops.co/neonpixel Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops Proppel https://www.weareproppel.com/operators Operators Portal https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ https://x.com/M__Operators https://www.instagram.com/marketingoperators/ | 1h 00m 48s | ||||||
| 10/6/26 | HexClad + Ridge Reveal Their 8-Figure Celebrity Sweepstakes Playbook | “Two of our winners have entered for free. They never purchased anything from us.”How did Ridge turn a 6-week Tony Hawk partnership into an 8-figure sweepstakes lift? Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) and Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) break down how sweepstakes campaigns became eight-figure growth engines for their brands. They cover celebrity deal structures, creative production, and revenue lift across every category. Tony Hawk’s deal doubled Ridge’s TV response rates and pushed partner-page ads to 40% of Meta spend. HexClad gets the same proof differently, running year-over-year holdouts and entry tiers that reward bigger purchases. Both track how sweepstakes shoppers scatter into unexpected categories, forcing a rethink of acquisition strategy. Powered By Motion https://9ops.co/motion-runneth Proppel https://www.weareproppel.com/operators Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Haus https://www.haus.io/operators NeonPixel https://9ops.co/neonpixel Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops Operators Portal https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ | 58m 18s | ||||||
| 9/29/26 | Two $100M+ Operators Get Honest About Launching New Brands | “There’s so much that I took for granted. It’s such a different playbook.” What happens when two operators who’ve helped build nine-figure brands start again at zero? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (advisor and former CEO, Jones Road) compare notes on two new launches: Ridge’s Gut Culture and Cody’s Winks. They get into six hard lessons from the early days. (1) Building with a lean team. (2) Earning credibility when nobody knows the brand. (3) Finding a message that gets clicks. (4) Testing offers before the data is conclusive. (5) Making subscription economics work. (6) Dealing with high ad costs. Cody shares what’s happening at Winks just weeks after launch; Connor explains what Ridge learned from six months of building Gut Culture. Powered By Motion https://9ops.co/motion-runneth Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops Proppel https://www.weareproppel.com/operators Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Haus https://www.haus.io/operators NeonPixel https://9ops.co/neonpixel Operators Portal https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ | 1h 04m 43s | ||||||
| 9/22/26 | How a 15% Price Cut Sent a Ridge Product’s Revenue Up 60% | Why do experienced operators still overcorrect on average order value? Varun Kundra (Co-founder, Aftersell by Rokt) joins Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road) to break down the pricing missteps that quietly cost real revenue and the metric worth watching instead. The hosts compare years of pricing tests at Ridge and Jones Road. They cover three ways to bundle for more revenue per order. Varun explains why image heavy upsells beat plain offers, plus a subscription upgrade converting at 20% to 30%. Connor and Varun wrap with a teardown of Winks, the brand behind Operators Build. Powered By Motion https://9ops.co/motion-runneth NeonPixel https://9ops.co/neonpixel Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops Proppel https://www.weareproppel.com/operators Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Haus https://www.haus.io/operators Operators Portal https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ | 1h 03m 05s | ||||||
| 9/15/26 | Two 2027 DTC Shifts: AI Retention Marketing & TikTok Creator Burnout | “We just had a hundred thousand people buy in the last 60 days.” What does the future of retention marketing actually look like by 2027? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) unpack what Postscript’s AI memories mean for retention marketing’s future. They map out a 2027 playbook built on personalized experiences, even as TikTok Shop’s creator economy hits a breaking point. Postscript is building unified profiles instead of fragmented SMS data. That shift promises holdout testing and customer lifetime value tracking. RCS already shows early lift in live tests. Meanwhile TikTok Shop’s incentive structure is pushing affiliates toward burnout. Powered By Motion https://9ops.co/motion-runneth NeonPixel https://9ops.co/neonpixel Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops Proppel https://www.weareproppel.com/operators Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Haus https://www.haus.io/operators Operators Portal https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ | 1h 04m 59s | ||||||
| 9/8/26 | holiday marketingBlack Friday+4 | Connor MacDonaldCody Plofker+1 | RidgeHexClad+6 | — | holiday offersBlack Friday+5 | Motion | 1h 05m 08s | ||
| 9/1/26 | incrementality testingBlack Friday+4 | Connor MacDonaldCody Plofker+1 | RidgeHexClad+3 | — | incrementalityBlack Friday+5 | Motion | 1h 00m 11s | ||
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| 8/25/26 | AI in marketingleadership+4 | Reza Khadjavi | RunnethMotion+10 | — | AI agentsmarketing leadership+5 | — | 1h 12m 42s | ||
| 8/18/26 | ecommerceaverage order value+3 | Varun Kundra | AftersellRokt+6 | — | average order valueupsell+3 | MotionCODE | 1h 15m 54s | ||
| 8/14/26 | incrementality testingmarketing mix modeling+3 | Olivia Kory | HausRidge+2 | — | incrementality indexROAS+3 | Motion | 1h 12m 59s | ||
| 8/11/26 | founder teamsAI in marketing+3 | Katie Cirulli | GrünsMcKinsey+2 | — | Katie CirulliGrüns+5 | Motion | 1h 12m 21s | ||
| 8/4/26 | influencer marketingbrand partnerships+3 | Connor MacDonaldCody Plofker+1 | LexusRidge+2 | — | influencer marketingLexus+5 | Motion CreativeCODE | 1h 02m 18s | ||
| 7/28/26 | TikTok shopaffiliate programs+3 | Cody PlofkerConnor Rolain+1 | Jones Road BeautyHexClad+3 | — | TikTokaffiliate marketing+3 | Motion CreativeCODE | 1h 02m 06s | ||
| 7/21/26 | Meta adsecommerce+3 | — | RidgeJones Road Beauty+2 | — | Meta adsclick-through rates+3 | Motion CreativeCODE | 1h 08m 09s | ||
| 7/14/26 | performance creative directorcreative strategist+4 | — | RidgeHexClad+6 | — | performance creative directorcreative strategist+4 | — | 1h 11m 56s | ||
| 7/7/26 | Big-Swing vs. Incremental: Our Ecommerce CRO Testing Framework | “All bad tests turn good and all good tests turn bad.” How do you run ecommerce A/B testing faster without sacrificing statistical confidence? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) debate when to burn the current site down and rebuild versus grinding out incremental wins one test at a time. The answer depends on what you can afford to get wrong. They cover Ridge’s live theme rebuild, HexClad’s 27% RPU lift from a single collection-page interstitial in Japan, and the case for running four variants instead of two. Cody also breaks down the qualitative research stack that helped Jones Road Beauty string together six consecutive winning tests. Powered By Motion Creative Benchmarks 2026 https://motionapp.com/thumbstop-pulse/creative-benchmarks-2026?utm_campaign=marketing-operators&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_content=creative-benchmarks-2026&utm_source=marketing-operators-podcast Haushttps://www.haus.io/operators Richpanelhttps://9ops.co/richpanel Aftersellhttps://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Operators Newsletterhttps://9operators.com/ | 1h 01m 27s | ||||||
| 6/30/26 | The Right Way to A/B Test Landing Pages on Meta Ads for Ecommerce | “It’s not a test. It’s diversity for the Meta algorithm.” Can running more landing pages hurt your ability to make decisions? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) dig into landing page optimization strategy, conversion rate optimization for Meta ads, and when structured testing is the wrong tool entirely. They cover what Jones Road learned from overdeveloping pages and what a disastrous A/B test on a new offer taught Ridge about how Meta allocates spend. They examine the operational cost of landing page sprawl, how to structure a site-wide theme A/B test without introducing too many variables, and whether DTC brands at scale should slow down product launches or double down on them. AG1’s move into creatine opens a broader conversation about the limits of single-SKU subscription businesses along with where product expansion makes sense. Powered By Motion Creative Benchmarks 2026 https://motionapp.com/thumbstop-pulse/creative-benchmarks-2026?utm_campaign=marketing-operators&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_content=creative-benchmarks-2026&utm_source=marketing-operators-podcast Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Haus https://www.haus.io/operators Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ | 1h 04m 05s | ||||||
| 6/23/26 | How to 2x Your A/B Testing Output Without More Budget | “We used to try to win every day. Now we’re willing to sacrifice entire months.” What does it mean to optimize ad spend when there’s no universal answer? Michael Ting (GM of DTC, JAXXON) joins Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) and Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) to challenge one of the most common assumptions in ecommerce email marketing and paid media: that there is a single optimized ad spend. There isn’t. The better question is what you’re trying to achieve and over what time horizon. Michael walks through how JAXXON uses cost per email signup to make confident budget decisions, spending aggressively into slow seasons and monetizing that list when it matters most. The conversation also covers decision quality frameworks, doubling AB testing velocity, and how daily performance reporting builds operator instinct over time. Powered By Motion Creative Benchmarks 2026 https://motionapp.com/thumbstop-pulse/creative-benchmarks-2026?utm_campaign=marketing-operators&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_content=creative-benchmarks-2026&utm_source=marketing-operators-podcast Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel Aftersellhttps://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Haushttps://www.haus.io/operators Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ | 1h 14m 26s | ||||||
| 6/16/26 | DTC Content Creation Process That Wins on Paid Social | “The digital deliverables have outpaced production company knowledge.” How do you build a repeatable content creation process without hiring a full agency? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) break down how they approach content production across every budget level; ranging from $50k brand shoot days to $100 iPhone clips that outperform everything else in the ad account. The episode covers the full content production stack: multi-team shoot briefing, on-set creative strategy, and the in-house studio advantage. The trio also gets into clipping, AI-generated UGC, and whether dead internet theory is already shaping how products go viral. Powered By Motion Creative Benchmarks 2026 https://motionapp.com/thumbstop-pulse/creative-benchmarks-2026?utm_campaign=marketing-operators&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_content=creative-benchmarks-2026&utm_source=marketing-operators-podcast Haus https://www.haus.io/operators Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ | 57m 15s | ||||||
| 6/9/26 | How AI Is Reshaping Ecommerce Growth Teams: HexClad & Jones Road | “We’re not hiring less because of AI. We just expect each hire to be more productive.” Is AI shrinking your marketing team, or just changing who belongs on it? Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) get into how two of the most operator-driven brands in ecommerce are rethinking their AI marketing team structure heading into the second half of 2026. They cover which roles are compressing, which are expanding, and what it actually looks like to build a leaner growth team that outputs more. Cody breaks down the CRO program he runs with one person that used to require six. Connor explains why HexClad hired more people after building an AI-powered seeding system, not fewer. And both share how they think about headcount requests now, and what they make teams prove before saying yes. Powered By Motion Creative Benchmarks 2026 https://motionapp.com/thumbstop-pulse/creative-benchmarks-2026?utm_campaign=marketing-operators&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_content=creative-benchmarks-2026&utm_source=marketing-operators-podcastAftersell https://9ops.co/4i3bb5 Haushttps://www.haus.io/operators Richpanelhttps://9ops.co/richpanel Operators Newsletterhttps://9operators.com/ | 1h 04m 12s | ||||||
| 6/2/26 | Meta Ads Catalog, TikTok Shops + GMV Max, and the Future of Creative | Can Meta and TikTok Shop be combined into a single playbook? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) are fresh off the Meta Performance Marketing Summit and cover what the event signaled, where paid social is heading, and what most brands are still sleeping on. They explain Meta betting big on product feed enrichment as the foundation for better AI-generated creative, and how GMV Max is quietly powering TikTok Shop’s top brands. The duo also reveals creators driving 60% of shop revenue, the Meta ads catalog, and TikTok Shop affiliate flywheels. Powered By Motion Creative Benchmarks 2026 https://motionapp.com/thumbstop-pulse/creative-benchmarks-2026?utm_campaign=marketing-operators&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_content=creative-benchmarks-2026&utm_source=marketing-operators-podcastRichpanelhttps://9ops.co/richpanelAftersellhttps://9ops.co/4i3bb5Haushttps://www.haus.io/operatorsOperators Newsletterhttps://9operators.com/ | 59m 49s | ||||||
| 5/28/26 | Live at Meta’s 2026 Performance Marketing Summit: Ads, AI & Audiences | “There’s going to be a world where you just tell them your product and your business goals and they do the rest.” What does Meta’s AI push mean for ecommerce brands trying to win on paid social right now? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) recorded this episode live at Meta’s Performance Marketing Summit 2026 where they break down everything Meta announced: AI infrastructure to catalog-powered creative and what brands need to do about it immediately. The conversation covers Meta’s shift toward catalog-first ad infrastructure and why clean product data is now table stakes, not a nice-to-have. They dig into how the media buyer role is converging with creative strategy, what a 24-hour full-funnel launch looks like in practice, and why the brands building creator ecosystems today are setting up a major moat for catalog creative tomorrow. Powered By MetaOperators Newsletterhttps://9operators.com/ | 40m 53s | ||||||
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Chart history for Marketing Operators
Peaked at #3 in Denmark, top 10 in 1 of 23 tracked markets, currently #3 in Denmark.
| Market | Genre | Peak | Current | Trend |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Denmark | — | #3 | #3 | — |
| MY | — | #19 | #19 | — |
| TH | — | #35 | #35 | — |
| Brazil | — | #57 | #57 | — |
| Ireland | — | #58 | #58 | — |
| HU | — | #59 | #59 | — |
| Mexico | — | #64 | #64 | — |
| Sweden | — | #72 | #72 | — |
| Canada | — | #78 | #78 | — |
| PL | — | #90 | #90 | — |
| VN | — | #94 | #94 | — |
| United States | — | #98 | #98 | — |
| Finland | — | #100 | #100 | — |
| Denmark | — | #140 | #140 | — |
| New Zealand | — | #146 | #146 | — |
| Netherlands | — | #150 | #150 | — |
| BE | — | #151 | #151 | — |
| PT | — | #156 | #156 | — |
| SG | — | #165 | #165 | — |
| CL | — | #166 | #166 | — |
Chart Positions
23 placements across 22 markets.
Chart Positions
23 placements across 22 markets.