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Treating the 'Madness' of Healthcare's Status Quo (feat. William Bestermann)
Jun 23, 2026
Unknown duration
Scaling Up Self-Funded Employer-Led Healthcare (feat. Ashley Bacot)
Jun 9, 2026
47m 21s
How to Build Community Owned Health Plans (feat. Bryce Heinbaugh)
May 12, 2026
48m 34s
Confronting Soaring Emergency Care Costs (feat. Al Lewis)
Apr 28, 2026
34m 16s
Winning the Benefits Market Attention Economy (feat. Chris Fisher)
Apr 14, 2026
40m 14s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/23/26 | ![]() Treating the 'Madness' of Healthcare's Status Quo (feat. William Bestermann) | The American healthcare system is financially engineered to wait for expensive medical disasters rather than preventing them. Perhaps no one has a clearer view of how to dismantle this "rescue medicine" trap than Dr. Bill Bestermann. A preventive cardiologist and former President of the South Carolina affiliate of the American Heart Association, Bestermann has spent decades fighting the "medical-industrial complex" from the inside—as an ICU director, health plan advisor, and chief medical officer. As the author of the Slow Aging and Delayed Chronic Disease Development newsletter, Bestermann exposes how Wall Street insurance companies and obsolete, 50-year-old billing models actively protect highly profitable specialty silos at the expense of patient health. He is a fierce champion of optimal medical therapy, a low-cost, protocol-driven approach that arrests chronic disease at the root cellular level. He joins us to unpack the staggering economic disparity between standard procedure-driven care and molecular prevention, explaining how self-insured employers and communities can bypass bloated hospital networks to buy actual, measurable value. Find a transcript of this episode at movingtovalue.org/transcript/bestermann________Sign up for our email list.Thank you to our members who make our work possible! As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, the Moving to Value Alliance relies on generous supporters to advance our mission of creating a value-based healthcare ecosystem with high-quality health outcomes at a reasonable cost for plan sponsors and their members. Get involved at movingtovalue.org/members. | — | ||||||
| 6/9/26 | ![]() Scaling Up Self-Funded Employer-Led Healthcare (feat. Ashley Bacot)✨ | self-funded healthcarevalue-based healthcare+3 | Ashley Bacot | Rosen Hotels & ResortsMoving to Value Alliance | Orlando, Florida | healthcare planprimary care+3 | — | 47m 21s | |
| 5/12/26 | ![]() How to Build Community Owned Health Plans (feat. Bryce Heinbaugh)✨ | community health planshealthcare ecosystem+4 | Bryce Heinbaugh | Moving to Value AllianceSouthcentral Foundation | OhioAshtabula County | community healthhealthcare costs+5 | — | 48m 34s | |
| 4/28/26 | ![]() Confronting Soaring Emergency Care Costs (feat. Al Lewis)✨ | emergency care costshealthcare spending+3 | Al Lewis | The Validation InstituteQuizzify+2 | — | emergency carehealth plan spend+5 | — | 34m 16s | |
| 4/14/26 | ![]() Winning the Benefits Market Attention Economy (feat. Chris Fisher)✨ | employee benefitscommunication+3 | Chris Fisher | BenefitsAllyMoving to Value Alliance | — | employee benefits3x3x3 Challenge+3 | — | 40m 14s | |
| 3/31/26 | ![]() How to Curb Profiteering and Reclaim True Value (feat. Wendell Potter)✨ | healthcare systemprofiteering+4 | Wendell Potter | HumanaCigna+5 | — | healthcareprofiteering+5 | — | 33m 43s | |
| 3/19/26 | ![]() Taking On Healthcare's Trillion Dollar Crisis (feat. AJ Loiacono)✨ | healthcare crisisadministrative waste+3 | AJ Loiacono | Judi HealthCapital Rx+1 | — | healthcareadministrative waste+5 | — | 50m 17s | |
| 3/3/26 | ![]() Leveraging Association Health Plans for Small Employers (feat. Grace Brangwynne)✨ | healthcaresmall employers+4 | Grace Brangwynne | Connecticut Business and Industry Association | ConnecticutConnecticut General Assembly | healthcareAssociation Health Plans+5 | — | 39m 19s | |
| 2/17/26 | ![]() Shedding Light on Healthcare's Blind Spots (feat. Ann Lewandowski)✨ | healthcare blind spotsfiduciary rigor+3 | Ann Lewandowski | Moving to Value AllianceConsolidated Appropriations Act | — | healthcareexpenses+5 | — | 41m 54s | |
| 2/3/26 | ![]() Serially Innovating Health Tech Solutions (feat. Michael LaFauci)✨ | health technologyinnovation+3 | Michael LaFauci | MidasVIEW systemMidas Healthcare Solutions | — | health techinnovation+4 | — | 36m 07s | |
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| 1/20/26 | ![]() Rewiring Healthcare Incentives with ICHRAs (feat. Chris Ellis)✨ | healthcare incentivesICHRAs+4 | Chris Ellis | Thatch | — | ICHRAshealth insurance+5 | — | 44m 31s | |
| 1/6/26 | ![]() A Holistic Approach to Health Equity (feat. Chantel Jackson)✨ | health equitycommunity-centered healthcare+4 | Chantel Jackson | Moving to Value Alliance | New YorkBronx+2 | healthcarehealth equity+6 | — | 28m 58s | |
| 12/16/25 | ![]() Fixing Healthcare Spending w/ Donovan Pyle✨ | healthcare spendingemployer strategies+3 | Donovan Pyle | Health Compass ConsultingMoving to Value Alliance+1 | — | healthcareemployers+5 | — | 36m 35s | |
| 12/2/25 | ![]() Building Sustainable Rural Care w/ Brock Slabach✨ | rural healthcarevalue-based care+4 | Brock Slabach | National Rural Health AssociationMoving to Value Alliance+1 | — | rural healthcarevalue-based care+5 | — | 34m 55s | |
| 9/20/24 | ![]() PBM Problems (Part 4): Challenges & Solutions for Independent Pharmacies w/ National Community Pharmacists Association | Pharmacists are one of the most trusted professions, yet more and more pharmacies are closing. A recent survey found 2275 pharmacies have closed so far this year, and every day independent pharmacies are shuttering their doors – often leaving “pharmacy deserts” in their wake. Vertically-consolidated Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs) have made it practically impossible for local pharmacies to survive, and we’re all paying the price. But independent pharmacists are speaking out and pushing back – and they’ve secured wins! General Counsel for the National Community Pharmacists Association (NCPA) Matt Seiler joins MTVA to discuss the current state of community pharmacy, how “shareholder capitalism” got us here, and what comes next. NCPA is the voice for independent pharmacy, representing the interests of nearly 19,000 community pharmacies across the country. Despite the challenges facing his industry, Matt is optimistic that desperately-needed PBM reform is on the horizon. “If there’s one thing that’s brought the political parties together in our country, it’s the dislike for pharmacy benefit managers.” Listen to learn more about the unique role community pharmacists play in the health system, why PBM consolidation is particularly acute at the local level, and how NCPA has helped secure bipartisan support for reining in PBMs. Check out the other episodes in our “PBM Problems” series: Part 1 w/ ERISA Attorney Paul Holmes Part 2 w/ Mutual Rx CEO Roy Wilkinson Part 3 w/ Luke Slindee, PharmD ———————————— We’re excited to welcome like-minded organizations and individuals to join the MTVA Membership program! As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, we rely on support from our grassroots network to advance our mission of creating a value-based health system with high-quality patient outcomes at a reasonable cost. We’re proud to offer two membership models, Ally Member and Trade Member. Tax-deductible membership contributions help us enrich the healthcare environment with quality content – including this podcast – and robust platforms to fuel discussion, collaboration, and advocacy that lead to ground-breaking solutions. For more information and to join us, visit our website https://www.movingtovalue.org/membership. All episodes of MTVA Unscripted can be found here. | — | ||||||
| 6/3/24 | ![]() PBM Problems (Part 1): Who do Brokers and Consultants Really Work for? Risks for Plan Sponsors w/ ERISA attorney Paul Holmes | This episode is a must-listen for all plan sponsors and employers! “In American business you don’t expect your major vendors to be profit-gouging you, and you don’t expect these major consulting firms to be taking their side instead of yours.” – Paul Holmes As Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs) face mounting scrutiny from policymakers and the public, health plan fiduciaries can’t ignore the money flows and potential conflicts-of-interest that may be hiding in the pharmacy benefit contracting process. In this episode, the MTVA Board talks with ERISA attorney Paul Holmes of Williams, Barber, Morel about the perverse incentives and lack of transparency in PBM contracts. Tune in to learn what plan sponsors need to ask their brokers and consultants and how to comply with new requirements in the Consolidated Appropriations Act (CAA). Holmes also discusses some innovative approaches – like carve-outs for specialty pharmacy and prior authorization – for plan sponsors to consider. This is the first episode in a new series from the “MTVA Unscripted” podcast called “PBM Problems” – exploring the middlemen who drive wasteful drug spending and pocket the profits. Resources mentioned in the episode: Dr. Eric Bricker’s videos on PBMs: PBMs Explained - Learn how the money flows and 5 PBM Tricks in 1 Training Session MTVA Unscripted episode on the Johnson&Johnson lawsuit MTVA Unscripted episode w/ Dr. Scott Conard All episodes of MTVA Unscripted can be found here. We’re grateful to Southern New England Healthcare Organization (SoNE Health) for their continued partnership and support as a sponsor of the Moving to Value Alliance. You can help advance our mission with a tax-deductible contribution at https://www.movingtovalue.org/jointhemovetovalue. | — | ||||||
| 10/12/23 | ![]() The Land of Frozen Molasses: Connecticut’s Healthcare Transformation and Its Influence on National Change | Jeff Hogan, Dr. Steven Shutzer, and Dr. John Rodis discuss Connecticut's evolving healthcare landscape -- how Connecticut serves as a national testbed for healthcare change, focusing on payment reform, care transformation, and the move toward value-based healthcare. The conversation touches on the influx of advanced primary care organizations, the role of data and transparency, the potential impact on hospitals and health systems in the state, and the role of policy and politics in shaping Connecticut ... and the nation's ... healthcare future.This episode features: Jeffrey Hogan, MTVA Founding Board Member & President, Upside Health AdvisorsJohn Rodis, MD, President, MTVA and Founder and President, Arista Health, LLCSteve Schutzer, MD, MTVA Founding Board Member & Co-Founder, Upswing Health All episodes of MTVA Unscripted can be found here. | — | ||||||
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