
Setter Closer Model for Roofing Door-knocking (Mistakes to Avoid)
From Roofing Podcast: Hook Better Leads by Tim Brown
April 21, 2026 · 48 min · Episode 406
About this episode
Ryan Fitzgerald discusses scaling a plumbing department within an HVAC company and the mistakes to avoid during the process.
Guest: Ryan Fitzgerald — Plumbing Department Leader, Fitzgerald Heating Air and Plumbing (Las Vegas, NV) Guest Links: Facebook: Ryan Fitzgerald (Las Vegas, Nevada) This episode covers how to layer a plumbing department onto an existing HVAC company and scale it from almost nothing to over $5 million in a single year. Ryan Fitzgerald joined a company in Las Vegas that was doing $14 million in HVAC but only $400,000 in plumbing, and within his first full year built the plumbing side to $5.4 million with a team of eight technicians and four installers. He breaks down exactly how that happened: a dedicated outbound team hammering phones to fill the board, assigning calls based on each tech's strengths and weaknesses, a four-option sales process where the homeowner feels empowered to choose rather than pressured, and leveraging HVAC cross-selling to get plumbing in the door. The conversation gets into why implementing systems too early can actually hurt you, including a real example of a field manager role they tried at $5 million that created friction between installers and sales techs and had to be pulled back until $7 or $8 million. Ryan also shares how growing too fast led to…
People in this episode
Guest: Ryan Fitzgerald
Topics covered
- business
- marketing
- plumbing
- HVAC
- sales
Keywords
- plumbing department
- HVAC company
- sales process
- outbound team
- cross-selling
- warranty callbacks
- leak detection
- water quality testing
- culture shift
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Places: Las Vegas, NV, Nevada
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