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Why AI ARR Alone No Longer Lifts Your Software Valuation
Jun 24, 2026
4m 29s
Here's What Separates the 9 Public SaaS Companies that Trade Above 10x
Jun 23, 2026
4m 33s
12 Steps to Creating an Outcome-based Pricing Plan
Jun 12, 2026
6m 54s
5 Takeaways for CFOs from the 2026 AI Pricing Report
Jun 10, 2026
6m 35s
Your AI Subscription Pricing Is Losing Money on the Customers You Care About Most
Jun 2, 2026
5m 15s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/24/26 | ![]() Why AI ARR Alone No Longer Lifts Your Software Valuation | AI ARR is easy to announce. Proving it is where most SaaS finance teams are about to get exposed. In episode #379, Ben Murray tackles the new bar for AI financial transparency and what it means for your next budget season. The public markets have already moved the goalposts. Launching AI was the 2024 story. Reporting AI ARR was the 2025 story. Now investors and boards want to see AI margins, customer outcomes, and proof that AI revenue is actually dropping to the bottom line. That same pressure is heading straight for private SaaS, and your board will bring it to budget season whether you are ready or not. Understand why AI ARR by itself no longer satisfies boards or investors, and what they now demand to see in the numbers. Separate pure AI revenue, AI-influenced revenue, and AI upsell so your reporting survives scrutiny, using clean SKUs, product IDs, and chart of accounts. Know which AI costs belong in COGS, including inference, infrastructure, and observability, so you can show your real AI margins. Walk into budget season ready for the board questions on AI revenue, AI cost, and margin by revenue stream. Instrument heavy, medium, and light AI users so you can defend margins and LTV to CAC as usage scales. Listen now and build the AI transparency your board will expect before budget season starts. Resources Mentioned Ben's blog posts on capturing AI costs in COGS: inference, infrastructure, and observability: https://www.thesaascfo.com/what-should-be-included-in-ai-cogs/ Ben's training on AI metrics: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/ai-finance-metrics-saas | 4m 29s | ||||||
| 6/23/26 | ![]() Here's What Separates the 9 Public SaaS Companies that Trade Above 10x | Is your SaaS company stuck in the valuation doghouse while a handful of names trade at a massive premium? In episode #378, Ben Murray breaks down Meritech's June 2026 public software comps report and the widening valuation gap across SaaS. The median revenue multiple has fallen 64% from its pre-ZIRP peak, and most public software now trades below 5X. If you are a SaaS founder or CFO, the multiple attached to your business depends on a short list of traits the market now rewards. This episode shows you which ones, and why the rules quietly changed. Why only 9 of roughly 100 public software companies trade above a 10X revenue multiple, while 77 sit below 5X How the Rule of 40 shifted under the surface, with revenue growth now 3.3x more correlated with the multiple than free cash flow margin Why two companies with the same Rule of 40 score can trade at 7.3x versus 3.7x, depending entirely on how they got there What the top 9 share in common: free cash flow margins above 20% and ARR growth above 20% at the same time How AI exposure now sorts the market, and why a weak AI ARR story lands horizontal SaaS in the doghouse Tune in to see exactly what separates the premium names from the rest before you benchmark your own SaaS valuation. Resources Mentioned Meritech June 2026 Public Software Comps (Pulse Report): https://meritech.substack.com/p/meritech-software-pulse-12-june-2026 Ben's academy: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/ | 4m 33s | ||||||
| 6/12/26 | ![]() 12 Steps to Creating an Outcome-based Pricing Plan✨ | outcome-based pricingSaaS pricing models+4 | — | IntercomHelp Scout+1 | — | outcome pricingSaaS founders+5 | — | 6m 54s | |
| 6/10/26 | ![]() 5 Takeaways for CFOs from the 2026 AI Pricing Report✨ | AI pricingCFO insights+4 | — | Pricing I/OBenchmarkit+1 | — | AI spendsoftware budget+6 | — | 6m 35s | |
| 6/2/26 | ![]() Your AI Subscription Pricing Is Losing Money on the Customers You Care About Most✨ | AI subscription pricinggross margin+3 | — | AI metrics courseAI readiness quiz+2 | — | AI customersgross margin+5 | — | 5m 15s | |
| 5/31/26 | ![]() 4 SaaS P&L Metrics That Break When You Kill Per-Seat Pricing✨ | SaaS pricing modelsP&L metrics+4 | — | CopilotServiceNow+3 | — | SaaSP&L metrics+5 | — | 5m 18s | |
| 5/29/26 | ![]() Per-Seat Pricing Is Dying: What the Shift to Usage-Based SaaS Means for Your Margins✨ | SaaS pricing modelsusage-based pricing+4 | — | BloombergGitHub+5 | — | per-seat pricingusage-based pricing+6 | — | 5m 25s | |
| 5/20/26 | ![]() The Two SaaStr Annual Slides Every SaaS Operator Needs to See Today✨ | SaaSAI transition+3 | — | SaaStr Annual | — | SaaSAI+5 | — | 3m 16s | |
| 5/10/26 | ![]() 2 AI Metrics Every SaaS CFO Should Track Today✨ | AI metricsSaaS CFO+3 | — | Salesforce | — | AI metricsSaaS+5 | — | 4m 15s | |
| 5/9/26 | ![]() What Belongs in AI COGS? The Financial Framework SaaS Companies Are Scrambling to Build✨ | AI COGSSaaS financial framework+5 | — | — | — | AI COGSgross margin+8 | — | 4m 24s | |
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| 5/8/26 | ![]() How Claude Opus 4.7's New Tokenizer Quietly Raised Your AI Bill by Up to 35%✨ | AI pricingSaaS P&L+5 | — | Claude Opus 4.7Claude Code+1 | — | AI billtokenizer+5 | — | 4m 29s | |
| 5/1/26 | ![]() Why Token Usage Tells You Almost Nothing About Your AI Product's Real Value✨ | AI product valuetoken usage+4 | — | SalesforceHubSpot+3 | — | AI measurementtoken counts+5 | — | 5m 25s | |
| 4/26/26 | ![]() Salesforce Invented a New KPI on an Earnings Call — Here's Why You Should Too✨ | KPI developmentAI metrics+3 | — | SalesforceWyndham+3 | — | SalesforceAgentic Work Unit+7 | — | 7m 06s | |
| 4/25/26 | ![]() Should You Price on Outcomes? What HubSpot's $0.50 Bet Means for Your SaaS Revenue Model✨ | SaaS pricingoutcome-based pricing+4 | — | BreezeAgent Force+2 | — | SaaSpricing strategy+8 | — | 5m 52s | |
| 4/21/26 | ![]() AI Inference Costs Are Crushing SaaS Gross Margins — Here's What to Do About It✨ | AI SaaSinference costs+4 | — | Bessemer | — | AI inference costsSaaS gross margins+5 | — | 5m 59s | |
| 4/9/26 | ![]() How to Track Digital Labor in Your SaaS P&L✨ | SaaS financeAI spend tracking+4 | — | ClaudeOpenAI+2 | — | SaaSP&L+5 | — | 5m 29s | |
| 4/2/26 | ![]() Where Tech Funding Is Flowing in 1Q26: AI Infrastructure, Vertical SaaS, and Enterprise Wins✨ | tech fundingSaaS+4 | — | AI infrastructurevertical SaaS+5 | — | SaaS fundingAI infrastructure+7 | — | 6m 48s | |
| 3/31/26 | ![]() Why Feeding Raw Data to AI Is Killing Your FP&A Accuracy✨ | AI in financeFP&A accuracy+3 | — | — | — | raw dataAI analysis+5 | — | 5m 38s | |
| 3/22/26 | ![]() The SaaSpocalypse Is Overblown: 4 Reasons Your SaaS Company Isn't Dead Yet✨ | SaaSAI impact on SaaS+4 | — | — | — | SaaSpocalypseenterprise software+5 | — | 5m 59s | |
| 3/21/26 | ![]() 3 Ways AI Could Kill Traditional SaaS✨ | AI impact on SaaSSaaS competition+3 | — | SaaSAI+1 | — | SaaSAI agents+5 | — | 4m 00s | |
| 3/18/26 | ![]() CFOs We are Implementing AI Backwards✨ | AI implementationfinance teams+4 | — | softwaremetrics.aiSaaSpocalypse+1 | — | AI workflowsSaaS metrics+5 | — | 5m 10s | |
| 3/12/26 | ![]() What Started the SaaSpocalypse?✨ | SaaSpocalypseAI disruption+4 | — | SaaS Metrics SchoolThe SaaSpocalypse — Bull Case, Bear Case, and How to Assess SaaS Defensibility | — | SaaSpocalypseAI coding tools+4 | — | 3m 38s | |
| 3/3/26 | ![]() Here's Why AI is Not Killing SaaS | Is AI killing SaaS? Ben argues the opposite. In episode #357 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben Murray explains why AI isn’t replacing SaaS companies — it’s amplifying subject matter expertise. Drawing on his experience building SoftwareMetrics.ai with AI coding tools, he walks through how he would not be able to create a useful expert without domain knowledge. It doens't just apply to Ben. Resources Mentioned Ben's new app at: https://softwaremetrics.ai/ What You’ll Learn Why AI is not replacing SaaS business models How subject matter expertise becomes more valuable in an AI-native world The importance of structured MRR schedules and clean invoice data How metadata (ACV, geography, vertical, company size) unlocks deeper retention insights The difference between dashboards and AI-powered revenue intelligence How AI can identify dormant expansion opportunities within your existing customer base Why It Matters AI tools amplify expertise — they don’t replace it Clean financial and customer data becomes a strategic asset Revenue intelligence goes far beyond basic retention reporting SaaS operators who understand their metrics can leverage AI more effectively Industry-specific knowledge remains a competitive moat in a world of AI tooling | 5m 19s | ||||||
| 2/25/26 | ![]() Top FP&A Solutions Used by Software Companies | In episode #356, Ben shares the results from the FP&A category of his 7th Annual SaaS Tech Stack Survey, highlighting the top financial planning and analysis solutions used in software companies today. With 37 FP&A solutions named in the survey, this remains one of the most competitive and fast-moving segments in the back-office tech stack. While spreadsheets still dominate usage—by a wide margin—dedicated FP&A platforms are gaining traction, especially as companies scale past $10M+ ARR and investor reporting requirements increase. Ben also compares this year’s results to prior years and explains how FP&A tool adoption shifts by ARR size. Resources Mentioned 7th Annual SaaS Tech Stack Survey: https://www.thesaascfo.com/surveys/finance-accounting-tech-stack-survey/ What You’ll Learn The most widely used FP&A solutions in SaaS and AI companies Why spreadsheets still dominate financial modeling workflows Which platforms are gaining momentum (Drivetrain, Mosaic, Aleph, Pigment, Planful, and others) How FP&A adoption changes as companies scale beyond $10M ARR Why enterprise-grade tools like Workday appear in larger organizations How funding and competition are reshaping the FP&A software landscape Why It Matters FP&A systems power your forecasting, budgeting, and board reporting Spreadsheet-based processes eventually break as complexity increases As ARR grows, investors expect more sophisticated financial modeling and analytics Selecting the right FP&A tool impacts forecasting accuracy, KPI visibility, and strategic planning Understanding market adoption trends helps founders and CFOs benchmark their financial systems | 4m 18s | ||||||
| 2/20/26 | ![]() Top Invoicing Solutions Used by Software Companies | In episode #355, Ben breaks down the top invoicing solutions used by SaaS and AI companies based on his 7th Annual Tech Stack Survey. With 57 different invoicing solutions named in the survey, this category shows far more fragmentation than core accounting. The top five solutions account for 55% of reported usage, but there’s still a long tail of specialized billing and revenue management platforms. Ben walks through the most widely used tools and explains how invoicing increasingly overlaps with revenue management, subscription billing, and payment processing. Resources Mentioned 7th Annual SaaS Tech Stack Survey: https://www.thesaascfo.com/surveys/finance-accounting-tech-stack-survey/ Metronome, sponsor of the invoicing category: https://metronome.com/ What You’ll Learn The top invoicing and billing solutions used in software companies Why QuickBooks and Stripe remain dominant in early and growth-stage SaaS Which newer platforms are gaining traction How fragmented the invoicing and billing landscape has become Why It Matters Invoicing is a critical link between bookings, cash flow, revenue recognition, and ARR reporting Poor billing infrastructure can break your MRR schedules and retention calculations As pricing models evolve (subscription, usage, hybrid), your invoicing system must handle complexity Revenue management tools increasingly sit between CRM, payments, and your general ledger Clean invoicing data is essential for accurate financial modeling, KPI tracking, and due diligence | 2m 58s | ||||||
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