Allergic to bullshit marketing w/ Louis Grenier

Allergic to bullshit marketing w/ Louis Grenier

From We're Not Marketers by Gabriel Bujold, Eric Holland, Zach Roberts

April 23, 2026 · 37 min · Season 5 · Episode 11

About this episode

Louis Grenier discusses the shortcomings of product marketing in B2B tech and the importance of understanding customer needs.

Louis Grenier has run a podcast called Everyone Hates Marketers for 8 years. He's not here to be nice about it. In this episode, Lou breaks down why product marketing only exists because B2B tech forgot what customers actually want — and why your positioning project is probably being run by the wrong person. We cover customer research frameworks, the CEO buy-in problem no one talks about, and the Irish convenience store that is a crime against positioning. Hit play before your next messaging doc meeting. You'll thank us. More from this episode Product marketing only exists because B2B tech companies got so far from their customers they had to invent a role to translate what the product actually does. Why the most powerful thing a consultant can offer is not being inside the company. Lou's actual Hotjar failure — why the CMO wasn't enough to make repositioning work. The six things you need to know from customers before you can touch a positioning doc. Why calling something a "marketing initiative" is the fastest way to kill CEO buy-in. "Sniff the same glue" — Lou's surprisingly accurate description of organizational alignment. The 3-meter Irish storefront that is simultaneously a…

People in this episode

Hosts: Gabriel Bujold, Eric Holland, Zach Roberts

Guest: Louis Grenier

Topics covered

  • product marketing
  • B2B tech
  • customer research
  • CEO buy-in
  • positioning
  • organizational alignment
  • community

Keywords

  • product marketing
  • B2B tech
  • customer research
  • CEO buy-in
  • positioning
  • organizational alignment
  • community
  • consulting
  • messaging
  • marketing initiatives

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Everyone Hates Marketers, Hotjar

Products: Red Bull

Places: Ireland, Irish convenience store

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