Measure important stuff or die trying w/ Pranav Piyush

Measure important stuff or die trying w/ Pranav Piyush

From We're Not Marketers by Gabriel Bujold, Eric Holland, Zach Roberts

November 6, 2025 · 45 min · Season 5 · Episode 2

About this episode

Pranav Piyush discusses the challenges and misconceptions in product marketing, emphasizing the importance of data and customer engagement.

Product marketing—marketing's favorite misunderstood stepchild or just expensive project management in disguise? Pranav Piyush (ex-Dropbox, ex-Bill, founder of Paramark) joins the crew to drop some inconvenient truths: most PMMs are stuck doing thankless work because nobody knows who actually runs the business. We're talking hypothesis-driven thinking, why talking to customers isn't optional, the statistical traps that make your research garbage, and why that rebrand probably won't save your pipeline. Also: The "HIPPO problem" destroying 90% of PMM effectiveness The three data pitfalls that make your research worthless (cherry-picking is just the start) Why statistics courses should be mandatory for every marketer The hypothesis-based approach that turns opinions into provable strategies Why measuring creative team productivity is a complete waste of time The incrementality blind spot: 99% of B2B orgs have no clue about their marketing ROI Activity metrics you should ignore vs. the engagement signals that actually matter If you've ever felt like a glorified PowerPoint factory or wondered why your data never wins arguments, this episode will either validate your existence or make…

People in this episode

Hosts: Gabriel Bujold, Eric Holland, Zach Roberts

Guest: Pranav Piyush

Topics covered

  • product marketing
  • data analysis
  • customer engagement
  • marketing effectiveness
  • hypothesis-driven thinking

Keywords

  • product marketing
  • PMM effectiveness
  • data pitfalls
  • hypothesis-driven
  • marketing ROI
  • customer research
  • engagement signals

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Dropbox, Bill, Paramark

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