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Listening to Students to Transform School Culture with Amy Fast
Jun 21, 2026
31m 32s
Let the Learners Lead with Rachael Thrash
Jun 14, 2026
48m 35s
Small Schools, Big Vision with Scott Bess
Jun 7, 2026
54m 04s
Making Mondays the Best Day of the Week with Jonathon Wennstrom
May 31, 2026
28m 45s
The Nonlinear Path with Bill Knous
May 24, 2026
50m 06s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/21/26 | ![]() Listening to Students to Transform School Culture with Amy Fast | In this vault episode of Transformative Principal, Jethro Jones revisits an interview with Amy Fast, then assistant principal at McMinnville High School in Oregon, originally recorded for the Transformative Leadership Summit. Amy shares how a tragic college shooting in nearby Roseburg prompted her and her principal to proactively survey all 2,100+ students about their wellbeing, connectedness, hopefulness, and sense of significance — rather than simply reacting with more security measures. We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district. | 31m 32s | ||||||
| 6/14/26 | ![]() Let the Learners Lead with Rachael Thrash | In this episode, Rachael Thrash — educator, author, and Senior Director at Big Bad Boo Studios — joins Mike Caldwell to challenge the gap between student voice and student ownership. With 25+ years in education, Rachel argues that GPA-gated student councils and empty surveys exclude the students who need to be heard most. Through real examples of students solving real school problems, she shows what happens when kids are given genuine agency. She also walks through her new book Let the Learners Lead, a practical toolkit for educators ready to co-create school culture with students — not just for them We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district. | 48m 35s | ||||||
| 6/7/26 | ![]() Small Schools, Big Vision with Scott Bess✨ | K-12 education reformcharter schools+4 | Scott Bess | Indiana Charter Innovation CenterIndiana State Board of Education+2 | — | education reformcharter schools+5 | IXL | 54m 04s | |
| 5/31/26 | ![]() Making Mondays the Best Day of the Week with Jonathon Wennstrom✨ | school cultureweekly meetings+4 | Jonathan Wennstrom | Rosedale Elementary | Livonia, Michigan | Celebrate Mondayassemblies+5 | IXLBE | 28m 45s | |
| 5/24/26 | ![]() The Nonlinear Path with Bill Knous✨ | educationmicro schools+4 | Bill Knous | Colorado League of Charter SchoolsGran Via+1 | DenverPhilly+1 | educationmicro school+5 | IXL | 50m 06s | |
| 5/17/26 | ![]() Addition Through Subtraction with Robert Dillon✨ | learning spaceseducation disruption+3 | Robert Dillon | Bright BytesJohns Hopkins University | — | learning spacesclassroom environments+3 | IXLBE | 31m 26s | |
| 5/10/26 | ![]() Developing Teacher Leaders with Kyle Palmer✨ | teacher leadershipschool culture+4 | Kyle Palmer | Johns Hopkins University | — | teacher leadersschool leadership+6 | IXL | 26m 51s | |
| 5/3/26 | ![]() Building Relationships That Outlast Leadership Transitions with Danny Bauer✨ | leadershiprelationships+3 | Daniel Bauer | Better Leaders, Better SchoolsRenaissance | — | transformative leadershipschool community+3 | Playworks | 31m 09s | |
| 4/26/26 | ![]() Read to Lead with Kimberly Miles✨ | reading as leadership practiceprofessional development+3 | Kimberly Miles | Make It Stick | — | readingleadership+3 | Playworks | 31m 44s | |
| 4/19/26 | ![]() Unleash Aliveness with Alisha De Lorenzo✨ | educationengagement+3 | Alisha De Lorenzo | Renaissance | — | alivenesseducation+4 | Playworks | 44m 09s | |
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| 4/12/26 | ![]() Better Together with Derek Cantrell✨ | school consolidationleadership+3 | Derek Cantrell | Better TogetherAllegheny High School+2 | — | school mergerintentionality+3 | Playworks | 47m 57s | |
| 4/5/26 | ![]() The Science of Kindness with Dr. Chris Culver✨ | kindness in educationneuroscience+5 | Dr. Chris Culver | Orange Sparrow | — | kindnesseducation+6 | Playworks | 37m 49s | |
| 3/29/26 | ![]() Instructional Coherence with Dr. Gene Kerns✨ | instructional coherenceeducation systems+4 | Dr. Gene Kerns | Renaissance Learning | — | instructional coherenceeducation+7 | — | 28m 54s | |
| 3/22/26 | ![]() Executive Functions for Every K-3 Classroom with Mitch Weathers & Sarah Oberle✨ | executive functionsK-3 education+3 | Sarah OberleMitch Weathers | Organized BinderExecutive Functions for Every K-3 Classroom | — | executive functionsworking memory+3 | Playworks | 59m 28s | |
| 3/15/26 | ![]() How to Lead Change Without Leaving Your Team Behind with Dr. Kristilynn Turney✨ | leadershipschool transformation+4 | Dr. Kristilynn Turney | Renaissance | — | educational leadershipschool principal+5 | Playworks | 37m 24s | |
| 3/8/26 | ![]() Supporting School Leaders Through the Daily Grind with Marie Bordeleau✨ | school leadershipburnout+3 | Dr. Marie Bordeleau | The Dust and the Glory | — | school leadershipburnout+3 | Playworks | 41m 46s | |
| 3/1/26 | ![]() The 3 Keys to Leading Every Human with Nick Pretasky✨ | leadershipeducation+3 | Nick Pretasky | IXLRenaissance | — | leadershipBond+5 | Playworks | 50m 50s | |
| 2/22/26 | ![]() Becoming an Innovative Leader with Brad Gustafson✨ | innovative leadershipeducation+3 | Brad Gustafson | IXLRenaissance | U.S.UC Berkeley | innovationeducation technology+3 | Playworks | 35m 06s | |
| 2/15/26 | ![]() Jethro's Dissertation - How Principals who Use AI for Innovation Create Cognitive Equity | In this special episode, Jethro Jones defends his doctoral dissertation on how school principals can use AI for innovation rather than just efficiency. The research challenges the common "save time" narrative around AI in education and introduces the concept of "cognitive equity" - using AI to expand capabilities and solve problems that weren't previously possible.Through a full-day workshop with 11 Wyoming principals, Jethro demonstrated that when professional development focuses on authentic problems rather than tools, leaders can create innovative solutions like student mental health check-in apps, digital citizenship games, and curiosity trackers. The study revealed three key barriers (time, training, and resources) and emphasized the importance of sustained, problem-focused professional development that allows for productive struggle. We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district. | 1h 08m 48s | ||||||
| 2/8/26 | ![]() A New Era of Transformative Principal with Mike Caldwell | In this special handoff episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones announces he's passing the podcast to Mike Caldwell, founder of LinkedLeaders, as Jethro transitions to his new role as Director of Operations at Life Lab, a character education company creating video curriculum for middle and high schools—a move that aligns perfectly with his doctorate in character education, which he's defending the day after this episode airs. The episode explores why this partnership makes sense, as both Transformative Principal and LinkedLeaders focus on supporting school leaders through connection, mentorship, and learning from others' experiences, with Mike's platform connecting principals with mentors who have actually done the work they're struggling with through features like "Leadership Suites" that give districts their own dedicated spaces while accessing a broader community. Jethro shares insights about using AI tools like Open Claw to streamline operations and eliminate repetitive tasks in his new role, while both hosts emphasize a core theme: school leaders desperately need safe spaces to connect with peers who understand their challenges, since they often can't discuss struggles with staff below them or administrators above them. After 13 years and over 10 years of episodes, Jethro confidently hands off the podcast to Mike, who will continue providing valuable conversations for educational leaders worldwide. We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district. | 32m 46s | ||||||
| 2/1/26 | ![]() Building Accountability Through Key Responsibility Areas with Will Parker | In this vault episode from the Transformative Leadership Summit, host Jethro Jones interviews Will Parker, a high school principal from northeastern Oklahoma, about implementing KRAs (Key Responsibility Areas) in schools. Will shares how he adapted Dave Ramsey's organizational management concept to create clarity and accountability for all staff members—from secretaries and counselors to administrators. The conversation explores how defining specific responsibility areas upfront prevents confusion, enables cross-training, improves hiring processes, and creates a supportive environment where everyone understands their role. Will emphasizes that KRAs are living documents revisited annually, helping schools manage organizational structure effectively, especially during transitions like budget cuts or staff changes. We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district. | 30m 49s | ||||||
| 1/26/26 | ![]() Learning Through Video Games at Alpha School with Benny | 15:19.5In this episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones interviews Benny, a 16-year-old sophomore at Alpha School in Austin. Benny discusses his Alpha X project—a YouTube channel explaining how video games are educational.The conversation explores Alpha School's innovative model, which combines AI-based academics in the morning with passion-driven project work in the afternoon. Benny shares insights on how video games teach critical life skills like problem-solving, resilience, teamwork, and communication through active learning environments.Jethro challenges Benny to stop perfecting his first video and start publishing immediately, emphasizing that consistent practice beats endless research. They discuss the importance of learning through doing, the value of failure in video games versus traditional education, and how Alpha School's approach helps students develop real-world skills.Alpha School academics and workshops. Benny’s youtube channelUploading many videos as opposed to researching to make one video. Active worlds do 1.5x better than kids in traditional learning situations.Video games teaching organic skills. Portal 1 and 2 are great for teaching logicProfessor Layton Franchise - puzzle games.What makes you give up? Motivational models - motivating a student for doing a certain task or achievementHow minecraft raised us better than our schools. Brainlift Google DocAbout BennyBenny is a 16-year-old sophomore who attends Alpha High School. He enjoys playing video games, playing instruments, and debating a variety of topics. He has lived in Austin, Texas his whole life and has been attending Alpha for three years. At Alpha, students complete an AlphaX project, an individual project based on their passions. When he was in middle school and during his first year at Alpha High School, Benny’s project was based on music therapy. However, as he progressed through high school, he began to change his project to a YouTube channel that explains how video games are educational. This change was inspired by the first thing he does when he gets home from school, which is playing video games. We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district. | 31m 18s | ||||||
| 1/18/26 | ![]() The Power of Principal Self-Efficacy with Stan Koterba | In this episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones speaks with Stan Koterba, an Ohio principal working on his doctorate in educational leadership. Stan shares his powerful personal journey of battling leukemia during his doctoral program and how that experience shaped his dissertation focus on principal self-efficacy—the belief that positive thinking and visualization directly impact leadership effectiveness.Dissertation Accountability groupStarted his dissertation in 2014, Leukemia slowed him down, but he persevered and is back on track!What self-efficacy means: Visualizing success and optimism that it’s going to work out.Personal experience first, and thinking about it. Tackle the toughest thing first. Start with the smallest win, and then keep going. Email is a procrastination tool. Schedule send is your friend!School email off my cell phone. Schedule times on your calendar. You are worthy of that yourselfDon’t get too busy with the busywork to do the real work!Text blast for phones to communicate with parentsHow to be a Transformative Principal? Get in the classrooms! About Stan KoterbaStan Koterba is a School Administrator, and is a former Band Director and is currently a Doctoral Candidate in Educational Leadership at Youngstown State University, as well as a Google Certified Educator. His doctorate is in principal self-efficacy. We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district. | 27m 29s | ||||||
| 1/11/26 | ![]() Reject the Premise, Part 8 with Danny Bauer | In this episode of Reject the Premise, Jethro and Danny challenge three common misconceptions in educational leadership. They argue that leadership development isn't a luxury but a necessity, emphasizing that top performers in every field invest in coaching and that having a coach demonstrates maturity rather than inadequacy. They reject the notion that leadership must be lonely, encouraging leaders to build supportive communities and connections rather than remaining isolated. Finally, they reframe innovation as a mindset focused on problem definition rather than an expensive, technology-dependent endeavor. Throughout the conversation, they stress that leaders must take ownership of their own development rather than waiting for districts to provide it, and they share practical examples of how constraints can actually fuel creativity and meaningful change in schools.Key Takeaways:Leadership development is not a luxury - it's essential. When you get better as a leader, everybody wins. Top performers across all fields have coaches, and school leaders deserve the same investment.Having a coach is a sign of humility and maturity, not weakness. The best leaders actively seek coaching and development opportunities because they know they haven't reached their full potential yet.Leadership doesn't have to be lonely - loneliness is a choice. Connect with other leaders through masterminds, coaching communities, online groups, or professional networks. Isolation is the number one enemy of excellence.Innovation is a mindset, not a budget item. It starts with clearly defining the problem you're trying to solve, not jumping to solutions. Real innovation often costs nothing but requires creativity, relationship building, and rethinking constraints.Don't wait for your district to develop you. Take ownership of your growth through external conferences, coaching, and learning from industries outside education. The best insights often come from beyond the education bubble. We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district. | 35m 16s | ||||||
| 1/4/26 | ![]() Supporting Students and Families with ADHD with Mike Goldstein | In this episode, Jethro Jones interviews Mike Goldstein, co-founder of Reset Teen Coaching and author of "I'll Do It Later." They discuss the challenges teens face with executive function, especially those with ADHD, and the trial-and-error nature of finding strategies that work. The conversation covers the limitations of one-size-fits-all approaches in education, the importance of supporting students and families, and the need for school leaders to rethink homework and support systems. Mike shares practical advice for principals, emphasizing the value of providing help during the times students struggle most, such as evenings, and encourages educators to partner with families and adapt to each student’s unique journey.Jethro’s current struggles with exerciseCase studies focused on the teens who are struggling with ADHDStrategies that could work with a certain situationHumility that you’re going to try different things for different kids. Kids don’t just have to struggle through school. College can cut both ways. ADHD only applies to things that feel like chores.Have we Been Thinking about ADHD All Wrong? Paul Tufts article in New York Times Magazine April 2025We will meet you more than halfway, grit and perseverance are importantHow to be a transformative principal? Your support staff may be trying to help kids at the wrong time. Try Zoom help in the evening with a support staff person. About Mike GoldsteinMike Goldstein is co-founder of Reset Teen Coaching. Previously he was founder and executive director of Match Charter High School in Boston. Mike’s new book is I’ll Do It Later: Surviving School (and Renewing The Love) with your Teenage Son. We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district. | 38m 14s | ||||||
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