Stop Selling Tools, Sell Outcomes (EP 992)

About this episode

The episode discusses the shift from selling tools to focusing on business outcomes and resilience in client conversations.

Lewis Pope and Stephanie Hammond from the N‑able Head Nerds team join me live at Empower in Fort Lauderdale to talk about shifting from selling tools to leading with business resilience, governance, and real executive conversations your clients actually care about. We dig into CMMC, compliance, EBRs, and why MSPs need to stop hiding behind tech jargon and start stepping up as advisors.

People in this episode

Host: Marvin Bee

Guests: Lewis Pope, Stephanie Hammond

Topics covered

• business resilience
• governance
• executive conversations
• CMMC compliance
• MSP advisory

Keywords

• MSP
• business outcomes
• CMMC
• compliance
• tech jargon
• advisors
• governance

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: N-able, CMMC, EBRs

Places: Fort Lauderdale

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