All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

(0:00) Former Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger joins Jason! (1:41) What Went Wrong at Intel (15:19) Why a Taiwan Blockade Would Cripple the US Economy (25:00) Lovable's Anton Osika: One Million New Apps a Week (33:38) How Lovable is Bringing Down Builder Costs Thanks to our partners for making this possible! Airwallex is a leading global payments and financial platform for modern businesses, offering trusted solutions to manage everything from business accounts, payments, treasury, and spend management to embedded finance. https://airwallex.com/allin Plaud - If your work depends on conversations — meetings, deal flow, interviews, customer calls — Plaud helps you capture and organize everything with highly accurate AI-generated notes that are not just simple summaries, but also highlight pain points, key decisions, next steps, and customizable summary templates. Check out Plaud at https://plaud.ai/allin and use code ALLIN for up to 20% off! Which is also available on Amazon: https://amzn.to/43URLff (Code: ALLIN20X) Follow Pat: https://x.com/PGelsinger Follow Anton: https://x.com/antonosika Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@allin Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg And a special thank you to Raise Summit for hosting us in Paris

(0:00) Bestie intros: Brad Gerstner fills in for Friedberg! (2:58) OpenAI vs Anthropic IPOs: Why it matters who goes first, what they learned from the SpaceX IPO, the unlimited TAM of intelligence (27:39) The open source decision, Meta's new model, Zuck's price war, AI duopoly (54:29) CCP considering putting export controls on Chinese models, is open source ending in China? (1:03:09) Trump Accounts launch, getting young Americans bought back into capitalism Apply for Summit 2026: https://allin.com/events Follow Brad: ttps://x.com/altcap Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://polymarket.com/event/ipos-before-2027 https://x.com/thejessezhang/status/2074154325933424861 https://x.com/praveenTweets/status/2074605343439810922 https://x.com/nikesharora/status/2074802778074124434 https://x.com/nikesharora/status/2074814752174522857 https://x.com/brian_armstrong/status/2070670644577280109 https://x.com/andyfang/status/2074252174226493584 https://x.com/nikesharora/status/2074630732019036574 https://x.com/finkd/status/2075218444056707458 https://x.com/alighodsi/status/2074996561306955958 https://blog.nicolasmeridjen.com/en/blog/2026-04-03-alibaba-qwen-closed-source-end-of-open-weight https://www.chinatalk.media/p/chinas-ai-companies-are-going-closed https://www.reuters.com/world/beijing-is-looking-curbing-overseas-access-chinas-top-ai-models-sources-say-2026-07-07 https://x.com/KurtSupeCPA/thread/2074817292550984010

(0:00) Bestie intros: Happy Fourth of July! (0:21) Palantir-Nvidia open source deal, Alex Karp's CNBC "Crashout" (33:52) Update on the AI jobs debate (50:24) Anthropic's Fable 5 available after export restrictions lifted (59:06) SCOTUS upholds birthright citizenship, striking Trump's EO (1:21:30) Newsom's "balanced budget" and how California's dire fiscal situation could break apart the Union Apply for Summit 2026: https://allin.com/events Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/palantir-secure-ai-us-agencies-nemotron-open-models https://x.com/PalantirTech/status/2072326189079757277 https://www.theinformation.com/articles/anthropic-blindsides-business-partners?rc=f8fu8f https://www.google.com/finance/quote/FIG:NYSE https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2072673187666813226 https://x.com/chamath/status/2072665199786561713 https://x.com/quxiaoyin/status/2072428278976074115 https://x.com/chamath/status/2072390507628540213 https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/chinese-national-pleads-guilty-running-birth-tourism-scheme-helped-aliens-give-birth-us https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/democratic-socialist-melat-kiros-defeats-longtime-house-incumbent-in-colorado-primary https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/2070496029280276571 https://www.ocregister.com/2026/02/27/these-charts-show-how-californias-budget-has-skyrocketed https://x.com/JeanneIves/status/2072165726526308719 https://polymarket.com/event/democratic-presidential-nominee-2028

(0:00) Gavin Baker and Travis Kalanick join the show! (1:05) Mamdani-endorsed socialists sweep congressional primaries in NYC (22:51) Future of the Democratic Party, the Israel issue, social media bans (45:12) China's open-source AI catch up, distillation, OpenAI's new chip (1:01:46) Micron smashes earnings, AI's memory crunch hitting Apple and consumer hardware (1:10:17) The math behind distributed compute and datacenters in space (1:27:22) IPO update: Anthropic at $3T, SpaceX float, Cerebras drops after breaking deal price Follow Gavin: https://x.com/GavinSBaker Follow Travis: https://x.com/travisk Apply for Summit 2026: https://allin.com/events Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://abcnews.com/Politics/clean-sweep-3-candidates-endorsed-mamdani-win-primaries/story?id=134152579 https://polymarket.com/event/mamdani-team-sweeps-primaries-20260618232357710 https://x.com/thestustustudio/status/2067356255916536120 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/espaillat-ny-house-primary-loss-district-13-avila-chevalier-rcna351127 https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/2069645066252034288 https://x.com/america/status/2069622732279402804 https://x.com/realmaalouf/status/2069433391162798337 https://x.com/JoshBlockDC/status/2070108811851882691 https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/2069776474429624684 https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/2068829255786803368 https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/04/07/negative-views-of-israel-netanyahu-continue-to-rise-among-americans-especially-young-people https://x.com/PirateWires/status/2069146641266094417 https://www.wsj.com/economy/the-data-center-boom-is-sparking-a-third-wave-of-inflation-926adc6e https://x.com/jietang/status/2067580270078030088

(0:00) Bestie intros! (2:41) The New Oligarchs, America's incoming politburo, and learned helplessness (14:18) SpaceX's record breaking IPO, $60B Cursor acquisition, and trillionaire reactions (33:34) Behind the scenes of Anthropic's Fable ban (1:01:18) Claude psychoanalyzes its creator, Dario Amodei (1:14:31) Iran War MOU and the market impact Apply for Summit 2026: https://allin.com/events Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/crypto/articles/illinois-set-begin-taxing-bitcoin-172237413.html https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/spacex-ipo-stock-market-06-12-2026 https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/16/spacex-spcx-cursor-acquisition-ipo.html https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgrk21wnvy9o https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/fed-meeting-warsh-interest-rate-06-17-2026/card/musk-swaps-300-million-tesla-options-for-shares-he-can-vote-qPrqq5tcKEzb2vkcqiXg https://www.cbsnews.com/news/spacex-spcx-stock-ipo-welder-employee-millionaire https://www.semafor.com/article/06/13/2026/white-house-move-to-limit-anthropic-linked-to-concerns-about-chinese-access-to-mythos https://www.wired.com/story/sk-telecom-anthropic-mythos-export-controls https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/06/15/how-anthropic-lost-white-houses-trust-then-its-flagship-product https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2065853007619588171 https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/amazon-ceos-talks-with-u-s-officials-triggered-crackdown-on-anthropic-models-dcc90578 https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access https://stratechery.com/2026/anthropics-safety-superpower https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2024/08/us-ai-safety-institute-signs-agreements-regarding-ai-safety-research https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/05/anthropic-pentagon-ai-claude-iran.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/17/opinion/ai-dangerous-openai-anthropic.html

(0:00) Chamath explains the Best Ideas format (2:31) Suvretta Capital Management's Aaron Cowen pitches MGM Resorts (13:07) Bornite Capital's Dan Dreyfus pitches Talen Energy (27:19) EcoR1 Capital's Oleg Nodelman pitches Aktis Oncology (40:20) Multicoin Capital's Kyle Samani pitches GEODNET (54:50) The Besties recap the pitches and announce winners Thanks to our partners for making this possible! EY - EY helps private equity firms turn market insight into action, navigating complexity and unlocking new paths to growth and long-term value. https://www.ey.com/en_us/industries/private-equity?WT.mc_id=3501315&AA.tsrc=sponsorship NYSE - Thank you to our partner, the New York Stock Exchange - a modern marketplace and exchange for building the future. It all happens at the NYSE. https://www.nyse.com Plaud - Never miss a moment. Plaud, our official wearable AI note-taking partner at All-In Liquidity Summit, captured every insight. https://www.plaud.ai Follow Aaron: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-cowen-0a44a450 Follow Dan: https://x.com/dreyfd https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-dreyfus-b65554209 Follow Oleg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oleg-nodelman-375131 Follow Kyle: https://x.com/KyleSamani https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylesamani Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg

(0:00) Dan Dreyfus Presents: The Future of Critical Minerals (0:33) America's "Capital Light Era" is over, rapid supply/demand shocks (5:40) Impact of China cutting off the US from critical minerals (8:18) Copper's Rise: The next 18 years need as much as the last 10,000 (12:00) Dollar Debasement: $140T in debt and why hard assets win (13:50) The Grid is Dying: Blackouts, bottlenecks, and the craft labor crisis (19:10) How to invest in the commodity supercycle Follow Dan: https://x.com/dreyfd Thanks to our partners for making this possible! EY - Liquidity, growth, and what's next for organizations were front and center at the Summit. EY helps turn liquidity challenges into sustainable value. https://www.ey.com/en_us/services/strategy-transactions/liquidity-working-capital-advisory?WT.mc_id=3501316&AA.tsrc=sponsorship NYSE - Thank you to our partner, the New York Stock Exchange - a modern marketplace and exchange for building the future. It all happens at the NYSE. https://www.nyse.com Plaud - Never miss a moment. Plaud, our official wearable AI note-taking partner at All-In Liquidity Summit, captured every insight. https://www.plaud.ai Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg

(0:00) Palo Alto Networks CEO Nikesh Arora joins the Besties! (0:47) Claude Mythos found years of vulnerabilities in Palo Alto's code in weeks (5:15) Are cyber defenders losing the race against AI attackers? (6:50) Analytical SaaS is dead, so what survives the AI wave? (14:06) If models become a utility, where will the money be made? (20:35) Armchair CEO: Nikesh rates Waymo, Google, and OpenAI (28:22) Palo Alto's M&A playbook and the path to $1 trillion Thanks to our partners for making this possible! EY - AI ambition isn't enough. EY.ai Value Blueprints move organizations beyond pilots embedding measurable business value by design. https://www.ey.com/en_us/services/ai/value-blueprints?WT.mc_id=3501320&AA.tsrc=sponsorship NYSE - Thank you to our partner, the New York Stock Exchange - a modern marketplace and exchange for building the future. It all happens at the NYSE. https://www.nyse.com Plaud - Never miss a moment. Plaud, our official wearable AI note-taking partner at All-In Liquidity Summit, captured every insight. https://www.plaud.ai Follow Nikesh: https://x.com/nikesharora Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg

(0:00) CEOs Andrew Feldman (Cerebras) and Will Marshall (Planet Labs) join the Besties! (2:05) Both CEOs on going public: Impact on employees, customers, and business operations (13:18) Timelines for datacenters in space (19:28) Cerebras business breakdown, AI's impact on the silicon market (24:45) How Founder/CEOs think about liquidity on the road to going public Thanks to our partners for making this possible! EY - Great tech starts with a big idea. From startup to scale, EY helps tech founders get financials right early so they can focus on what's next. https://www.ey.com/en_us/tech-sector/tech-startups?WT.mc_id=3501317&AA.tsrc=sponsorship NYSE - Thank you to our partner, the New York Stock Exchange - a modern marketplace and exchange for building the future. It all happens at the NYSE. https://www.nyse.com Plaud - Never miss a moment. Plaud, our official wearable AI note-taking partner at All-In Liquidity Summit, captured every insight. https://www.plaud.ai Follow Brad Gerstner: https://x.com/altcap Follow Andrew Feldman: https://x.com/andrewdfeldman Follow Will Marshall: https://x.com/Will4Planet Apply for Summit 2026: ⁠https://allin.com/events⁠ Follow the besties: ⁠https://x.com/chamath⁠ ⁠https://x.com/Jason⁠ ⁠https://x.com/DavidSacks⁠ ⁠https://x.com/friedberg⁠ Follow on X: ⁠https://x.com/theallinpod⁠ Follow on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod⁠ Follow on TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod⁠ Follow on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod⁠ Intro Music Credit: ⁠https://rb.gy/tppkzl⁠ ⁠https://x.com/yung_spielburg

(0:00) Coatue's Thomas Laffont joins the Besties! (0:30) Public markets are back as AI is dominates the "Unicorn Economy" (5:15) The $4T AI IPO explosion (7:48) The case for SpaceX: Compounding launch monopoly and Starlink (10:38) The 10x Paradox: Why we're seeing unprecedented scaling (15:33) Segmenting AI markets and future impact (18:32) Bestie Q&A: Power Law in AI, future of VC, where revenue is coming from, liquidity explosion Thanks to our partners for making this possible! EY - Agentic AI is introducing a new investment discipline. As AI shifts to consumption-based models, EY connects spend to enterprise value. https://www.ey.com/en_us/insights/ai/agentic-ai-token-costs?WT.mc_id=3501318&AA.tsrc=sponsorship NYSE - Thank you to our partner, the New York Stock Exchange - a modern marketplace and exchange for building the future. It all happens at the NYSE. https://www.nyse.com Plaud - Never miss a moment. Plaud, our official wearable AI note-taking partner at All-In Liquidity Summit, captured every insight. https://www.plaud.ai Apply for Summit 2026: ⁠https://allin.com/events⁠ Follow the besties: ⁠https://x.com/chamath⁠ ⁠https://x.com/Jason⁠ ⁠https://x.com/DavidSacks⁠ ⁠https://x.com/friedberg⁠ Follow on X: ⁠https://x.com/theallinpod⁠ Follow on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod⁠ Follow on TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod⁠ Follow on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod⁠ Intro Music Credit: ⁠https://rb.gy/tppkzl⁠ ⁠https://x.com/yung_spielburg

(0:00) OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar joins the show! (0:31) How OpenAI thinks about its IPO timeline (3:31) OpenAI, Anthropic, Google: The AI arms race (7:43) Navigating the compute crunch and AI bottlenecks, device preview! (15:53) OpenAI's economics (26:08) Push into chips, the cloud (29:32) OpenAI's ad business and strategy Thanks to our partners for making this possible! EY - Agentic AI is introducing a new investment discipline. As AI shifts to consumption-based models, EY connects spend to enterprise value. https://www.ey.com/en_us/insights/ai/agentic-ai-token-costs?WT.mc_id=3501318&AA.tsrc=sponsorship NYSE - Thank you to our partner, the New York Stock Exchange - a modern marketplace and exchange for building the future. It all happens at the NYSE. https://www.nyse.com Plaud - Never miss a moment. Plaud, our official wearable AI note-taking partner at All-In Liquidity Summit, captured every insight. https://www.plaud.ai Follow Sarah Friar: ⁠https://x.com/thefriley⁠ Apply for Summit 2026: ⁠https://allin.com/events⁠ Follow the besties: ⁠https://x.com/chamath⁠ ⁠https://x.com/Jason⁠ ⁠https://x.com/DavidSacks⁠ ⁠https://x.com/friedberg⁠ Follow on X: ⁠https://x.com/theallinpod⁠ Follow on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod⁠ Follow on TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod⁠ Follow on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod⁠ Intro Music Credit: ⁠https://rb.gy/tppkzl⁠ ⁠https://x.com/yung_spielburg

(0:00) Gavin Baker joins the show! (0:30) Andrej Karpathy joins Anthropic; hypergrowth and profitability (12:42) Why Americans have turned on AI, anti-human perception (27:22) Trump pulls AI EO, US-China AI relationship, dystopian AI layoffs (45:19) SpaceX S-1 tear down! Breaking down the three major businesses and the case for a $2T valuation (1:11:22) Nvidia smashes earnings but stock falls, why people are shorting chips (1:22:25) Market update: Flashing red signals, oil, inflation, yields up (1:32:45) China trip flops, or was progress made behind the scenes? Follow Gavin Baker: https://x.com/GavinSBaker Apply for Summit 2026: https://allin.com/events Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/19/anthropic-hires-openai-cofounder-andrej-karpathy-former-tesla-ai-lead.html https://github.com/karpathy/autoresearch https://github.com/multica-ai/andrej-karpathy-skills/stargazers https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/openai-co-founder-andrej-karpathy-joins-anthropics-pre-training-team https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mind-blowing-growth-is-about-to-propel-anthropic-into-its-first-profitable-quarter-7edbf2f4 https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1dxYljYVREYJX https://apnews.com/article/trump-ai-executive-order-ee318f35acc8a2c43e47f3ebf26cb459 https://x.com/wallstengine/status/2057378437485216031 https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/2056842597117636890 https://x.com/lulumeservey/status/2057239284487201043 https://polymarket.com/event/spacex-ipo-closing-market-cap-above https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2057228707606196434 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm https://s201.q4cdn.com/141608511/files/doc_financials/2027/Q127/NVDA-F1Q27-Quarterly-Presentation-FINAL.pdf https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/leopold-aschenbrenner-investment-shift-agi-over-ai-chips-1797606 https://polymarket.com/event/may-inflation-us-annual https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/15/inflation-rate-projected-to-hit-6percent-in-the-second-quarter-top-economic-forecasters-say.html https://polymarket.com/event/fed-rate-hike-in-2026 https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/18/treasury-yields-inflation-bond-rout-oil.html https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Charles & Chase Koch (1:04) Koch Inc. Overview: Scale, Business Lines & History (2:21) Building the Business: Early Days & Charles Koch Joins (1961) (11:31) Failures, Creative Destruction & Learning from Mistakes (19:22) Culture & Principle-Based Management (33:53) Georgia-Pacific Acquisition & Culture Transformation (56:17) Stand Together: Education Reform & Social Change (1:12:37) AI, Economic Challenges & the Future of Capitalism Thanks to our partner Axon.ai for making this possible. Axon.ai — AppLovin's AI advertising platform reaches over a billion daily active users across mobile games. Full-screen video ads with a 35-second median watch time. Advertisers are profitably spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a day and advertiser access is still in closed beta. The window is open at https://axon.ai/allin Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect