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How To Grow Your Business When The Market Stops Helping You
Oct 12, 2026
52m 11s
164 Aussie Families Just Wiped Out 3,903 Years Of Mortgage Repayments - Graeme Holm #157
Oct 6, 2026
1h 00m 57s
How to Buy Off-Market Properties: Where to Find Them and How to Negotiate - No BS Property Show #4
Sep 28, 2026
1h 34m 47s
How to Build a 9-Figure Business In Australia: The 9-Pillar System Behind $450M In Client Sales - Vaughn Royer #156
Sep 21, 2026
2h 33m 53s
How to Actually Use AI In Your Business in 2026 - Luke Heka (Full Breakdown) #155
Sep 14, 2026
1h 55m 46s
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| 10/12/26 | How To Grow Your Business When The Market Stops Helping You | In this episode I decided to share everything I learned in September from spending time with some of the best operators in the country. The market has slowed, and with it referrals, organic leads and cash flow. So I wanted to show you how to take back control instead of waiting for things to turn.I break down the full one-to-many sales funnel I watched Graeme run at his real estate masterclass, in front of nearly 1,000 people: ads, a free webinar, a paid masterclass, then becoming a client. I also cover why he keeps investing in clients long after they’ve paid him.Then I get into the biggest productivity unlock I’ve found, which is learning to use AI agents like Claude Code yourself. I used one to build my entire ad funnel, a 37-email nurture sequence, two websites and a live business dashboard, with no tech background.I finish with what the experts are saying about the property market: the SMSF lending changes, the undersupply, and where people are moving.If your business has slowed down, this one’s for you. | 52m 11s | ||||||
| 10/6/26 | 164 Aussie Families Just Wiped Out 3,903 Years Of Mortgage Repayments - Graeme Holm #157 | Want what those 164 families got? Graeme teaches the exact method in a free webinar: https://www.bothsides.au/moneymentor164 families just paid their mortgages to zero. Between them: $52.93 million in principal gone, $54,778,910.18 in interest the banks will never collect, and 3,903 years of repayments wiped out.Then Graeme Holm gave away $40,000 of his own money, live on the show, to eight Bothsides listeners, and told us this is his last episode.Graeme is the founder of Infinity Group, Australia's biggest privately owned brokerage. Across this series he's broken down how families pay off a 30-year mortgage in under 10. This time he opens up the business behind it: why he spends $6,000 on a client who paid him $5,000, why clients keep paying him thousands a year after their mortgage hits zero and he earns no trail commission, why he turns away around 200 of the 830 people who apply every month, and why some of them have his logo tattooed on them.Then we called eight listeners who entered the competition. Their numbers are in the calls: $110,000 off a mortgage in 18 months. $40,000 in six months.One listener three and a half years ahead of schedule. One family who paid off more in two months than they had in the previous ten years. That's $40,000 given away in this episode, and more than $200,000 across the series. | 1h 00m 57s | ||||||
| 9/28/26 | How to Buy Off-Market Properties: Where to Find Them and How to Negotiate - No BS Property Show #4 | Most homes that match what you're looking for will never show up on realestate.com.In this episode, Daniel Beardall and Josh Yun (the Off-Market King) break down exactly how a property deal gets done, from getting your finance sorted to finding off-market homes and negotiating the price down.In this episode you'll learn:→ The 5 steps every property deal goes through→ The 6 ways to search for property (and why the portals are only one of them)→ How to get access to off-market properties through agents and property managers→ Why you should start in the "sold" section, not the "for sale" section→ How to value a property before you make an offer→ How to use seller motivation and settlement terms to pay less→ The negotiation tactic that took $250,000 off a Sydney homeMost buyers fight over the same few listings everyone else can see, at the price the seller sets. The ones who pay less find the homes nobody else knows about, and it comes down to five steps...Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreFollow Josh:◼️ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thejoshyun/Bothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 1h 34m 47s | ||||||
| 9/21/26 | How to Build a 9-Figure Business In Australia: The 9-Pillar System Behind $450M In Client Sales - Vaughn Royer #156 | Vaughn Royer quit a $150,000-a-year job to knock on doors, and at 21 sold his house to keep the business alive. Today he's turned client outcomes into $450 million in client sales, running ad accounts that spend up to $100,000 a day.He didn't get there by building a personal brand. Vaughn says he's scaled businesses to nine figures with no name, no brand and zero content, and that most of the marketing industry is obsessed with the wrong number - leads, when the only thing that pays the bills is sales.He learned direct response under John Gian, the man he calls the best direct response marketer in Australia, and now runs the ads behind some of the country's biggest names in property, finance and education - built on paid acquisition systems rather than audience building.In this episode, he explains:▪ How he turns $1,000 of ad spend into $3,000 - and the 30/30/30 rule that makes the numbers work▪ Why "we need more creative" is almost never the real problem, and what actually is▪ How to cut your time from first click to closed sale from six months down to six days▪ The four-line formula behind every ad he writes - and why the message beats the visual every time▪ The real reason he refuses to show anyone his best performing ad▪ What it cost him to get here - and what he'd tell his own kids about money that most parents get wrongVaughn builds funnels that keep working while you sleep. Property should work the same way.Most properties only make money if the market does. The ones that pay for themselves from the day you settle are bought differently, and it comes down to four points.Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreFollow Vaughn:◼️ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/vaughnroyer/Bothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 2h 33m 53s | ||||||
| 9/14/26 | How to Actually Use AI In Your Business in 2026 - Luke Heka (Full Breakdown) #155 | Every kit Luke built for this episode is free. Nine of them, ready to copy straight into Claude Code or Code X. The Operating System kit alone gives you a personalised CLAUDE.md rulebook, five playbooks for planning and delegation, and a starter memory that carries across sessions. There's a website builder, connection kits for the software you already run, and six more. Grab the lot here: https://drops.selrai.com.au/bothsidesIs Is everything you've been told about AI in business wrong? Most owners are paying for AI agents that do nothing, while the tool that actually works sits unopened on their laptop.Luke Heka is the founder of Selr AI, a Gold Coast development team that's been putting AI systems inside Australian businesses since 2021. From one-man operations to companies with hundreds of staff. He's not a content creator and he's not a consultant. He builds the systems and installs them, and in this episode he gives away the setup he normally charges for.In this episode, he explains:▪ Why the people selling you AI agents are running something far simpler underneath▪ How to turn YouTube into a brain that thinks like any expert you name▪ What Claude Code actually costs to run - and the $8,000 nobody mentions▪ How one trade business went from three-day quotes to forty minutes▪ The single process in your company worth automating first▪ The one thing he refuses to let AI anywhere nearFollow this episode's guest:Luke HekaConnect with Luke:LinkedIn - Luke HekaSelr AI:Website - selrai.com.auInstagram - @selr__aiLinkedIn - Selr AIFacebook - Selr AIGet every AI shortcut Luke shared:drops.selrai.com.au/bothsidesThis episode was filmed at Selr Studio:Instagram - @selr.studioBothsides:Website - www.bothsides.auFollow the show - @bothsides_podcastFollow Dan:@daniel_beardallBothsides Buyers Agency:Instagram - @bothsidesbuyersagencyWebsite - bothsidesbuyersagency.com.auListen & subscribe:YouTube - @bothsidespodcastSpotify - Listen hereApple Podcasts - Listen here | 1h 55m 46s | ||||||
| 9/7/26 | real estatewealth building+4 | Josh Morrissey | hiveproperty.co | CanberraACT | real estatewealth+6 | — | 1h 53m 18s | ||
| 9/3/26 | property marketwealth building+3 | Josh Yun | Australia | — | property marketequity+3 | — | 1h 26m 47s | ||
| 8/31/26 | business lessonsentrepreneurship+3 | — | Bothsides PodcastAustralian property | — | business lessonsentrepreneurship+3 | — | 31m 53s | ||
| 8/25/26 | mind masteryself-worth+4 | Teal | bothsidesbuyersagency.com.au | Northern Rivers, Australia | mind rewiringclaircognizance+4 | — | 1h 43m 37s | ||
| 8/17/26 | property buyingreal estate investment+4 | Matt Srama | srama.com.auBothsides+3 | — | property masterclassbuyer's agent+5 | — | 1h 36m 47s | ||
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| 7/8/26 | Every Australian Needs To See THIS - Graeme Holm #149 | Graeme Holm counts four property corrections in Australia, and puts the largest at 5.5 percent. His argument is that trying to time your way around a dip that size, while sitting out years of double digit growth, is the expensive mistake almost nobody adds up.Graeme Holm is the founder of Infinity Group and has been in lending for more than 25 years. Recorded after the federal budget changes.What you will learn:- The size he puts on all four Australian corrections, and why he says timing them costs more than it saves- Why rents rising and deposits getting harder to save are the same problem for a first home buyer- His argument that a home is capital gains tax free and an investment is not, and what that means for the order you buy in- Why he says anyone telling you not to pay tax is broke, and how paying tax is what lets him borrow- Why the shift from trusts to companies looks like every other government scheme cycleChapters00:00 Time in the market, and why the growth is in years eight to ten07:04 What the budget did to the investment market14:02 Whether he is doubling down, and the Buffett comparison20:50 Four corrections in forty years, and the largest was 5.5 percent29:17 The two moments that matter: when you buy and when you sell39:24 Why he sells assets every couple of years46:22 Why some buyers agents get to ten and stop52:59 What risk you are actually insuring against1:00:39 Ten seconds on a whiteboard, and serving before selling1:07:44 Timing the market against time in the market1:14:54 Calling a listener about their budget1:22:24 The consolation prizes1:29:39 ClosingGraeme Holm holds through every correction because the asset pays regardless. Property should work the same way.Most properties only make money if the market does. The ones that pay for themselves from the day you settle are bought differently, and it comes down to four points.Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreFollow Graeme Holm:◼️ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/graeme_holm/◼️ Infinity Group - https://www.instagram.com/infinitygroupau/Bothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Bothsides Buyers Agency - https://www.bothsidesbuyersagency.com.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 1h 47m 07s | ||||||
| 7/7/26 | EP | 149 Every Australian Needs To See THIS - Graeme Holm | Australia's property market just went through its biggest overnight shift in years. In this episode, Grame Holm, a leading voice in Australian property and finance, breaks down what actually happened after the Federal Budget - how the banks moved on valuations almost instantly, why one client's property lost $250,000 in value overnight, and why he believes this is the exact moment to act, not retreat.Graeme Holm is a mortgage broker and motivational speaker, with years of experience helping everyday Aussies navigate the property market through booms, corrections, and policy shocks. He regularly shares data-driven insights on where the Australian property market is heading next.The views shared in this episode are personal opinions and general in nature - they do not constitute financial advice and should not be relied upon without speaking to a licensed professional about your own circumstances.He explains: ■ Why the banks changed their valuations almost overnight after the Budget ■ How one client's property dropped from $850,000 to $600,000 in months ■ Why consumer sentiment is at rock bottom - and why that's historically the buying signal, not the warning sign ■ The 40 years of data showing Australia has never had two consecutive years of price correction ■ Why Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway just made a multi-billion dollar bet on residential housing ■ The difference between what's happening to established homes vs. new builds right now ■ Why timing the exact bottom of the market has cost investors more than it's ever saved them🎁 We've now given away $175,000 to our listeners across this podcast series - and we're not done. Subscribe to both Bothsides and Money Mentor on Spotify or YouTube, share your favourite episode from each on your socials tagging us, and send us a screenshot - 5 people will win $5,000 each once we hit $200,000 given away. | 1h 44m 57s | ||||||
| 6/3/26 | The $1B Blueprint: How to Scale Without Chasing a Single Lead - Stephen Michaels and Jonathan Valentino #148 | Stephen Michaels and Jonathan Valentino settle 1.1 billion dollars of loans a year with no marketing, no advertising and no cold outreach. Every broker in the business is on a salary, and the whole instruction to them is one sentence: delight the customer.Stephen Michaels and Jonathan Valentino are the founders of Catalyst, a brokerage they have run for 14 years, submitting around 150 million dollars of loans a month across 40 lenders and taking their business from about 60 referral partners.What you will learn:- Why every broker in their business is salaried rather than contracted, and what that does to quality control- How a bridging loan actually works, on real numbers, and why they say 60 percent of approved bridges are never drawn- The 26 million dollar bridge at around 7.5 percent, and the house that took nine months to sell- The 24 month rule they use to explain why most new brokers quit just before it starts working- Why they would tell a new broker to learn credit policy before touching social mediaChapters00:00 The reverse mullet: party at the front, business at the back04:21 How they got past a billion a year in settled loans06:40 Doing every job end to end before trying to teach it08:06 Why every broker in the business is on a salary11:42 Taking the admin off the salesperson so they only have to close14:50 What actually keeps good staff: the money, or the learning17:57 The three deals you nail, and the three you only do 8 out of 1021:15 The confidence play, and why most approved bridges go unused24:19 Who a bridging loan is actually for26:42 What a bridge really costs, and the rate you pay on the gap27:54 The 26 million dollar bridge, and the mansion that would not sell31:08 If you started again tomorrow, learn policy first34:50 The 24 month rule, and why most brokers quit too early38:54 The sale that opened the network, and the ones done for free42:00 What makes a good broker, and why resilience is the job47:16 Do not try to take on everything in your first year50:57 Development lending, and why the banks pulled back53:27 Private credit, and the banks now competing to come back in55:51 The decision tree on a site the bank said no to58:52 Making the complex simple, and why that is the whole jobStephen Michaels and Jonathan Valentino settle $1.1 billion a year without advertising. Property should work the same way.Most properties only make money if the market does. The ones that pay for themselves from the day you settle are bought differently, and it comes down to four points.Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreBothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Bothsides Buyers Agency - https://www.bothsidesbuyersagency.com.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 1h 12m 05s | ||||||
| 5/18/26 | Two Brothers Dominating Australian Property - Rob and Andrew Gray #147 | Rob and Andrew Gray had 650 people on a waitlist for a project they had not started marketing. They also say one bad project can undo ten years of good ones, which is why they are careful in a way most developers are not.Graya is a Gold Coast development and construction business run by two brothers, whose father was a quantity surveyor.What you will learn:- How 650 registrations before any marketing tells them what to build and how big- Why they measure success by whether their buyers resell at a profit, not by their own margin- The one bad project problem, and how a decade of track record can come undone- How they split the business: construction, marketing and sales against development- Where they tell a new developer to start, and whether renovations come firstChapters00:00 What they have learned about success05:50 Why holding a site while interest ticks changes everything11:26 Splitting the roles: construction and sales against development17:20 The option contract, and amalgamating two properties into one site22:25 The copycats, and what they cannot replicate27:58 A pipeline that has passed 1.5 billion33:16 Developer licensing, and pushing liability onto developers38:26 Sports players, musicians and politicians as buyers44:02 Asking for feedback without taking all of it on boardRob and Andrew Gray had 650 buyers waiting before they'd spent a dollar on marketing. Property should work the same way.Most properties only make money if the market does. The ones that pay for themselves from the day you settle are bought differently, and it comes down to four points.Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreFollow Rob and Andrew Gray:◼️ Rob - https://www.instagram.com/rob.graya/◼️ Andrew - https://www.instagram.com/andrew.graya/◼️ Graya - https://www.instagram.com/graya/Bothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Bothsides Buyers Agency - https://www.bothsidesbuyersagency.com.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 1h 34m 05s | ||||||
| 1/17/26 | How to Become a Successful Real Estate Agent - Bill Malouf #145 | Bill Malouf spent 37 years building a name at one brand before moving it, and he says the worst thing an agent can do at a listing presentation is walk in with a book about their own company. His alternative takes 25 to 30 minutes and has nothing to do with market share.Bill Malouf has sold Sydney prestige property for more than 30 years and is now at Highland Double Bay, alongside Sam Schuman. Recorded in a Sydney penthouse.What you will learn:- What he does in the first 25 minutes of a listing presentation instead of pitching- How he handled a Saturday with nobody through, and why he rang the vendor 15 minutes later- Why he says over quoting should cost an agent their licence, and how Fair Trading now checks- The candle analogy he uses on his own sales team, and what it is really about- The Point Piper sale that started at over 60 million and settled at 37Chapters00:00 Pick something you would still want to do in 40 years00:33 Turning up with a book about your own company03:34 Inside the apartment, and what makes a property unrepeatable06:52 Knowing what you are good at, and what you are not10:02 Partnership against franchise, and what an in-house back end changes14:12 Is the franchise model dead17:47 Property management as the engine, not the afterthought20:02 Open book, cross selling, and the fastest way to kill a culture22:29 Does the brand make the agent, or the agent make the brand25:02 Coming out from under the radar after 37 years28:15 Giving time to a 23 year old, and why it matters30:05 The rot starts at the top31:51 From 600,000 to 100 million in one office34:52 Over quoting, and why he thinks it should cost you your licence38:03 Pricing a property honestly when the vendor wants more40:01 The Saturday nobody came through, and the phone call he made anyway44:30 Who actually buys at this level, and what they are buying45:04 Keeping the candle lit, and what COVID exposed48:55 The vendor who said no auction, and the only team that listenedBill Malouf wins on the vendor's numbers, not his own brochure. Property should be bought the same way.Most properties only make money if the market does. The ones that pay for themselves from the day you settle are bought differently, and it comes down to four points.Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreBothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Bothsides Buyers Agency - https://www.bothsidesbuyersagency.com.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 50m 49s | ||||||
| 1/9/26 | How to Actually Stop Burning Out - Lincoln Westerman #144 | Lincoln Westerman's argument is that telling a burnt out person to make more calls is stacking demand on a system already at capacity, and that it always crumbles eventually. The only variable is when.Lincoln Westerman coaches high performers on energy and nervous system regulation through his practice Mocha, working one to one with around 17 people at a time. He is a former real estate agent and a master practitioner in NLP.What you will learn:- Why he asks what a million dollar GCI goal will actually let you experience, and what happens when nobody can answer- What a nervous system in survival mode does to sleep, temper and immunity- The client whose entire reset was sunlight morning and evening and no phone after seven- Why sacrifice originally meant to make sacred, and how that changes the question- The phone health audit he runs before anything else, and what he asks about where it livesChapters00:00 Stacking harder work on a system already at capacity00:44 What will that goal actually let you experience05:39 Seven schools, and what moving that much teaches you07:02 What flow really is, and why living in it is dangerous10:55 Too much in your head, or too much in your body14:04 When did you last do something fun with nothing to do with work20:14 The questions people never think to ask themselves21:04 Following the thread: why, why, why28:04 Rough handles and soft handles, and why he does not push34:19 Seek to understand, not to destroy35:05 A coach asks questions. A teacher gives instructions39:02 How the nervous system actually works, in plain terms45:01 The reset that was only sunlight and no phone after seven53:01 Sacrifice means to make sacred1:01:01 His own protocols, and the demand he is carrying right now1:07:43 Phone health, and auditing where your phone actually lives1:09:01 Intentionality, and not relying on how you feel1:12:49 What the top operators are still trying to fix1:18:01 Get the energy right and everything else gets easier1:28:22 What you consume, and how you speak to yourselfLincoln Westerman builds a system that doesn't rely on more effort. Property should work the same way.Most properties only make money if the market does. The ones that pay for themselves from the day you settle are bought differently, and it comes down to four points.Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreBothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Bothsides Buyers Agency - https://www.bothsidesbuyersagency.com.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 1h 32m 44s | ||||||
| 12/31/25 | The Australian Dream Is Dead - Graeme Holm #143 | Graeme Holm says the gap is going to get wider, and that most people arguing about it online will still be renting in ten years. He also explains the two interest rates on every loan document, and why the one the bank advertises is not the one you actually pay.Graeme Holm is the founder of Infinity Group, one of Australia's largest independent finance broking businesses, and has been in lending for more than 25 years.What you will learn:- The difference between the advertised rate and the comparison rate, and why he argues the second one should legally be called the actual interest rate- Why most borrowers never notice they are paying 8 to 12 thousand a year off principal while the rest goes to interest- How to get a bank valuation before exchange, and what that does to the equity you can pull- Why he will not take on the maintenance risk that comes with an older home- The 24 month spending reset he tells people to run before they try to buy anythingChapters00:00 Why the disparity is going to get worse04:35 One property or two, and what a 20 percent deposit actually buys08:19 The 105 percent home loan, and who would take no deposit12:21 Agents arriving with the suit and the car on finance16:40 Whether the settings quietly help institutions in20:17 Leaving Sydney and moving the money to southeast Queensland23:47 Getting a good valuation, and when equity unlocks27:17 Minimum repayments, and what sits behind the curtain30:54 What a single income actually needs to borrow now35:23 Parental guarantors and equity pledges39:21 The comparison rate against your actual interest rate43:07 The 200,000 sitting in a saver instead of an offset46:55 Why he will not flaunt what he owns51:07 What the room took away54:38 Doing it for impact once you no longer need the money58:17 What he sees coming out of the USGraeme Holm knows which side of the gap he is on. Property should put you on the same side.Most properties only make money if the market does. The ones that pay for themselves from the day you settle are bought differently, and it comes down to four points.Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreFollow Graeme Holm:◼️ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/graeme_holm/◼️ Infinity Group - https://www.instagram.com/infinitygroupau/Bothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Bothsides Buyers Agency - https://www.bothsidesbuyersagency.com.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 1h 02m 21s | ||||||
| 12/24/25 | How I Built A 200-Person Company With ZERO Systems - Graeme Holm #142 | Every business coach says you fall to the level of your systems. Graeme Holm runs a 200 person business and says he does not run to systems at all, has no routine, and has tried three CEOs who all failed. His alternative is a general manager with skin in the game.Graeme Holm is the founder of Infinity Group, one of Australia's largest independent finance broking businesses. This is his third appearance on the show.What you will learn:- Why he says hiring an incentivised general manager beats hiring a business coach, and the test he applies to any coach- The operating expense buffer he asks every business owner about, and how few can answer- Why he deliberately outsources accounting, legal and financial planning rather than bringing them in house- Why three attempts at handing over the CEO role never worked in a private company- The forecast that his industry would fall 30 to 50 percent, and what his business did insteadChapters00:00 Making the money does not make the problems go away01:11 Running a 200 person business without systems05:09 A theme park closed privately, and what the party is actually for06:41 The couple who would not sell it back for what they paid plus a dollar10:15 When to step back, and the risk of holding on too long13:27 Three CEOs, and why none of them worked16:43 What five years of a real partnership actually looks like20:05 If the partnership fails, half of that is yours23:16 Hire an incentivised general manager instead of a business coach26:36 Who is smarter, you or the donkey29:38 Why money is more taboo at a barbecue than health33:15 The claim from the stage that started the partnership36:41 Two jobs, sixty hour weeks, and the toasted sandwich40:22 The Art of Thinking Clearly, and the chapter he rereads43:42 A forecast of a 30 to 50 percent fall, and what happened instead46:56 Partnering with people already on the ground50:12 Fee for service instead of commission53:17 Forty eight states, and the two he will not touch56:30 Phase one in America, and dying wondering1:00:31 Nine people in accounts, and software that could not keep upGraeme Holm runs 200 people without a system, because the model carries itself. Property should work the same way.Most properties only make money if the market does. The ones that pay for themselves from the day you settle are bought differently, and it comes down to four points.Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreFollow Graeme Holm:◼️ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/graeme_holm/◼️ Infinity Group - https://www.instagram.com/infinitygroupau/Bothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Bothsides Buyers Agency - https://www.bothsidesbuyersagency.com.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 1h 11m 46s | ||||||
| 12/17/25 | Australia Is At Breaking Point - Graeme Holm #141 | Graeme Holm's figure: borrow 500,000 over 30 years and you pay back around 1.1 million. Stretch the term to 40 or 50 years and he puts it closer to 1.4. He calls that generational debt, and it is why he is now looking at America.Graeme Holm is the founder of Infinity Group and has spent 25 years in Australian lending.What you will learn:- What he says a 40 or 50 year mortgage costs a family over its life, in dollars- Why he moved his kids' savings into the offset, and how earning 6 percent by not paying it beats 3 percent taxed- How white label lending products work, and why volume let him build four of his own- The questions he asks about a region before investing: industry, healthcare, education, sport- Why most people lack the emotional patience the investment period actually requiresChapters00:00 Four big banks, and who owns what underneath them10:12 Hampers, flowers, and the client who was made redundant18:45 The A Current Affair story, and why good news does not run23:27 Whether the people who make money end up giving more29:39 The offset accounts 600,000 families were never linked to34:18 Nobody calculates interest daily, and what a statement hides39:21 Cars owned outright, redraw, and restructuring around it44:53 Live examples: commercial buildings, redraws and offsets49:45 Thirty properties, or one very large tenant54:44 Why rentvesting breaks if you cannot wait seven to ten years59:31 Why he never closes a loan he has paid off1:05:19 Where a 100 percent return actually comes from1:10:05 Gladstone, mining, and the risk in a single industry town1:15:09 Being prepared to be hatedGraeme Holm makes the debt work for the borrower. Property should work the same way.Most properties only make money if the market does. The ones that pay for themselves from the day you settle are bought differently, and it comes down to four points.Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreFollow Graeme Holm:◼️ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/graeme_holm/◼️ Infinity Group - https://www.instagram.com/infinitygroupau/Bothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Bothsides Buyers Agency - https://www.bothsidesbuyersagency.com.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 1h 33m 56s | ||||||
| 12/11/25 | From Housing Commission Kid to Millions in Real Estate - Graeme Holm #139 | Graeme Holm bought his first home at 21 on a 97 percent loan with no lenders mortgage insurance, because he worked at the bank. He sold it two years later for ten thousand dollars more, and it went on to be worth several times that. He calls it the most expensive lesson he ever had.Graeme Holm is the founder of Infinity Group. He grew up in housing commission in Wollongong, raised by a single mother, and went from bank customer service representative to running three branches before leaving to start his own business.What you will learn:- The career path from customer service representative to bank branch manager, and what each step actually taught him about money- Why he argues fear is simply not having enough information, and what to do about it first- How the Division 7A loan trap works, and why he says the smartest way to take money out of a business is to pay the tax- Why he will not buy in Sydney or Western Australia, and the supply argument behind it- The cross securitisation mistake he says almost every upgrading family makesChapters00:00 Told he would amount to nothing03:57 Housing commission in Wollongong, and a childhood he will not soften08:00 Soccer at nine, and the community that fed him12:36 What he would tell his eighteen year old self17:45 How to find people worth listening to when there are none around you21:56 Playing full out at a seminar he did not want to attend26:20 From customer service rep to running three branches29:48 Fear is just not having enough information33:26 Owning the ego, and the one bad marriage36:59 What the fuel changes to once you are safe40:34 The Division 7A trap, and why paying tax is the cheap option44:21 What is actually in the portfolio49:22 Two commercial properties, and why he is wary of the rest52:59 Buying the building the business sits in58:01 The rentvestors selling at a loss inside 24 months1:01:27 Selling five a year, and the half that carries no tax1:05:30 Cross securitisation, and the house people will not let go of1:09:29 Teaching kids to give, and the Wishing Tree1:14:31 Do more, give more1:18:21 What he would ask the audience to go and doGraeme Holm's first home did the work while he got on with life. Property should work the same way.Most properties only make money if the market does. The ones that pay for themselves from the day you settle are bought differently, and it comes down to four points.Get the free guide: https://go.bothsides.au/scoreFollow Graeme Holm:◼️ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/graeme_holm/◼️ Infinity Group - https://www.instagram.com/infinitygroupau/Bothsides:◼️ The weekly email - https://bothsides.au◼️ Bothsides Buyers Agency - https://www.bothsidesbuyersagency.com.au◼️ Dan - https://www.instagram.com/daniel_beardall/◼️ Watch on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@bothsidespodcastGeneral information only. Not financial, tax, legal or credit advice. Bothsides is not a mortgage broker or credit provider. | 1h 21m 58s | ||||||
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