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#102 - Better Text Marketing With AI | Aaron Dolton
Jun 19, 2026
Unknown duration
#101 - 115,000 Beliefs Tracked | Matthew Ward
Jun 19, 2026
Unknown duration
#100 - Solving Problems With AI Innovation| Don Barger
Jun 12, 2026
25m 48s
#99 - Why 95% of AI Projects Fail | Gregory Richardson
Jun 5, 2026
1h 08m 21s
#98 - From Siloed Data to 25% Donor Growth | Nathan Hill
Jun 4, 2026
17m 00s
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| 6/19/26 | ![]() #102 - Better Text Marketing With AI | Aaron Dolton | What if the content your ministry already has — sitting untouched on a shelf — could reach more people, deepen engagement, and activate brand-new donors, all through a channel with a 98% open rate?In this DMC 2026 session, Aaron Dolton of Powered by Text shares a real-world case study with Jack Graham's PowerPoint Ministries that proves ministry-first strategy doesn't just honor the mission — it funds it.Key Takeaways"Money follows mission" is more than a ministry philosophy — it's a proven fundraising strategy. PowerPoint Ministries built their entire SMS strategy on a 90/10 rule: 90% ministry content, 10% fundraising. The results speak for themselves.Text has an open rate of approximately 98% compared to 20% for email. Aaron unpacks why SMS is one of the most underleveraged channels in ministry today and how delivering existing content through text dramatically changes engagement numbers.Repurposing content you already have is a game-changer for under-resourced teams. PowerPoint Ministries had 30 years of devotional content on the shelf. Powered by Text helped them repackage it for daily SMS delivery — no new content creation required.The results were remarkable. After launching a daily devotional text series, PowerPoint Ministries saw their monthly video views jump from approximately 4,000 to nearly 70,000 — driven solely by a change in delivery channel. Additionally, their average donation via text rose from approximately $80 to approximately $202, and they activated 89 brand-new first-time donors.Their subscriber file grew 27% organically. Without any paid acquisition, the file grew from 60,000 to 76,000 contacts — driven by subscribers sharing devotional content with others.AI-powered sentiment analysis is helping ministries respond to their audiences with greater care and stewardship. Powered by Text is using AI to surface prayer requests, flag urgent responses (including crisis situations), and cleanse subscriber lists — ensuring every dollar spent on outreach is stewarded wisely.Teaching your audience to text — especially older donors — is worth the effort. Aaron shares how a simple video tutorial for PowerPoint Ministries' "Last Seven Words from the Cross" Easter campaign helped even first-time texters engage with confidence.Your Content Is Already Written — Are You Sending It?If your ministry is sitting on years of great content while struggling to reach and retain donors, this episode will show you a better way forward. Aaron's session is a practical, data-grounded reminder that when you lead with mission, the resources follow. Listen now and start thinking differently about the channels you already have access to.RESOURCESConnect with Aaron — https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarondolton/Aaron Dolton — Powered by TextPowerPoint Ministries — jackgraham.orgText WISDOM to 59789 to experience a sample monthly devotional seriesFive Q Launch AI — Ready to turn AI experimentation into real ministry impact? Learn more at fiveq.com/launch | — | ||||||
| 6/19/26 | ![]() #101 - 115,000 Beliefs Tracked | Matthew Ward | Most Christians know that they believe — but far fewer can clearly articulate why. Matt Ward, founder and CEO of BeliefTrack, built a free web-based platform to change that — and what started as a personal faith inventory has grown into a powerful discipleship and leadership vetting tool for churches. In this episode of Ministry at Scale, Chad Williams sits down with Matt to explore how a simple question — "What do I actually believe?" — became a tool that has tracked over 115,000 individual Christian beliefs.Key TakeawaysA personal faith journey sparked a ministry-sized tool. Nearly 10 years ago, Matt began wrestling with his own beliefs as a young adult — not what he was taught, but what he could confidently own. That process of honest self-reflection became the foundation for BeliefTrack's nearly 300 theological questions, spanning beginner to advanced doctrine.The confidence rating is one of BeliefTrack's most disarming features. Rather than simply asking "do you believe this?", users rate their confidence on a scale from 1 to 10. It's a simple mechanism that creates honest self-awareness — and opens the door to deeper study, better conversations, and more confident outreach.BeliefTrack has nearly 800 registered users and has tracked approximately 115,000–116,000 individual Christian beliefs — a number Matt says far exceeded his expectations, driven by people's genuine hunger to go deeper with their theology.Churches are using BeliefTrack as a leadership vetting and discipleship tool. The recommended church rollout starts with the pastor crafting their core beliefs, then having leadership go through the same process — creating a transparent, side-by-side comparison that surfaces theological alignment and gaps before someone steps into a teaching role.The platform reveals a surprising reality: congregations aren't as theologically aligned as pastors assume. Matt's experience with users from across denominations shows that even within a single church, meaningful doctrinal diversity exists — particularly on topics like eschatology and inerrancy. BeliefTrack helps pastors see those gaps clearly and respond with targeted discipleship rather than assumptions.AI played a supporting role in refining the platform's questions. As a software engineer, Matt used AI tools to help audit his question bank for unintentional bias — ensuring that users are genuinely guided toward reflection rather than nudged toward a predetermined answer.BeliefTrack is free — and Matt wants to keep it that way for small churches. Church accounts are available now, and the long-term vision is for small churches to always have free access to the platform as a discipleship resource.Does Your Church Know What It Believes?If you've ever wished you had a window into what your congregation actually believes — or if you're a ministry leader wanting to equip your people with tools for deeper theological engagement — this episode is for you. BeliefTrack is the kind of simple, mission-aligned tool that could transform the way your church approaches discipleship. Listen now, then head over to BeliefTrack.com to set up your church account and see it for yourself.RESOURCESConnect with Matthew — matt.ward@belieftrack.comMatthew Ward, Founder and CEO — BeliefTrackBeliefTrack YouTube Channel — https://www.youtube.com/@BeliefTrackBook Recommendation: Living on Target — a discipleship book Matt's church is currently using; focuses on prioritizing relationship with Christ, family, church, and the world.Online Resource: Gavin Ortlund / Truth Unites YouTube channel — accessible theological discussions on a wide range of topicsFive Q Launch AI — Ready to turn AI experimentation into real ministry impact? Learn more at fiveq.com/launch | — | ||||||
| 6/12/26 | ![]() #100 - Solving Problems With AI Innovation| Don Barger✨ | AI innovationevangelism+3 | Don Barger | International Mission BoardIMB+1 | — | AIevangelism+5 | — | 25m 48s | |
| 6/5/26 | ![]() #99 - Why 95% of AI Projects Fail | Gregory Richardson✨ | AI project failuretechnology in ministry+3 | Gregory Richardson | Six Levers ConsultingBlackberry+3 | — | AI projectsfailure rate+3 | — | 1h 08m 21s | |
| 6/4/26 | ![]() #98 - From Siloed Data to 25% Donor Growth | Nathan Hill✨ | donor growthdata unification+3 | Nathan Hill | Bible League CanadaAVID+2 | — | donor acquisitiondata integration+3 | — | 17m 00s | |
| 6/2/26 | ![]() #97 - Jake Carlson: AI Evangelism in Action — 140,000 Gospel Conversations a Month✨ | AI EvangelismGospel Conversations+4 | Jake Carlson | The Apologist ProjectGot Questions Ministries+1 | — | AIevangelism+5 | — | 16m 22s | |
| 5/1/26 | ![]() #96 - Saved for Good Works: How Toby Weiss Built a Tech Career in Service of the Kingdom✨ | technology strategyministry engagement+3 | Toby Weiss | VirtuousSiteStacker+2 | — | technology problemsstrategic maturity+3 | — | 44m 52s | |
| 3/27/26 | ![]() #95 - Faithfully Leading in Big Tech with Rich Robison✨ | faith in the workplaceleadership+3 | Rich Robison | big tech company | — | faithbig tech+5 | — | 38m 11s | |
| 3/19/26 | ![]() #94 - Faith and AI with Yvonne Carlson✨ | faithartificial intelligence+4 | Yvonne Carlson | Global Media OutreachMissional AI Conference | — | AIministry+6 | — | 39m 01s | |
| 6/2/25 | ![]() #93 - Blending AI with AU: Pathway to Victory’s Secret Formula for Engaging Hispanics✨ | AI in ministryHispanic outreach+4 | Kendell Stellfox | Kerux GroupPathway to Victory | U.S. | AIHispanic audience+5 | — | 14m 51s | |
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| 5/30/25 | ![]() #92 - 5 Ways to Repurpose Your Content with AI✨ | content repurposingartificial intelligence+3 | Kenny Jahng | Google NotebookLMSermonShots+2 | — | AI for Church Leaderscontent repurposing+6 | — | 25m 15s | |
| 5/29/25 | ![]() #91 - Using AI Chat for Ministry✨ | AI in ministryconversational AI+3 | Chase CappoBrianne Shaw | Gloo AIHope with God+3 | — | AI chatministry engagement+3 | — | 16m 17s | |
| 5/28/25 | ![]() #90 - How to get a 360 View of Your Audience✨ | data strategyaudience engagement+4 | Josh Kashorek | Five Q | — | audience behaviordata silos+4 | — | 20m 59s | |
| 5/27/25 | ![]() #89 - Biblical Framework for Understanding and Using Artificial Intelligence✨ | artificial intelligencefaith and technology+4 | John Dyer | Dallas Theological Seminary | — | artificial intelligenceChristian leadership+5 | — | 43m 36s | |
| 5/14/25 | ![]() #88 - Using Data to Tell Your Story✨ | storytellingdata+3 | Daniel JenkinsKristin Sukraw | StoryFind Films | — | data storytellingministry leaders+3 | — | 38m 43s | |
| 5/5/25 | ![]() #87 - From Text to Voice: How Truth for Life is Using Voice Cloning✨ | voice cloningdigital ministry+4 | Sarah SharpMike Costlow | Truth for LifeTheotech | — | voice cloningAI+5 | — | 16m 26s | |
| 5/2/25 | ![]() #86 - Using Data to Drive Your Social Media Strategy✨ | data strategysocial media+3 | Chris Martin | Moody Global Media | — | datasocial media strategy+5 | — | 26m 20s | |
| 4/30/25 | ![]() #85 - Bible Engagement in the Digital Nations with Adam Graber | Featuring Adam Graber, Christianity Tomorrow & Co-Host of Device & Virtue PodcastRecorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025How do we saturate the digital world with Scripture? In this episode of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, Adam Graber unpacks findings from groundbreaking research conducted in partnership with the British and Foreign Bible Society. With a deep understanding of digital theology and years of experience consulting ministries worldwide, Adam reveals the current state of Bible engagement across 27 “digital nations” — platforms with over 70 million monthly users — and outlines where the greatest gaps and opportunities lie.Listeners will discover which platforms are overserved or underserved by digital Bible creators, the surprising dominance of individual creators versus organizations, and what types of tools and alliances are still desperately needed. Whether you're a ministry leader, strategist, or digital content creator, this episode offers data-driven insights and a compelling challenge to rethink your role in the digital Bible ecosystem.Recommended Resources:https://adamgraber.com/Christianity Tomorrow Adam on LinkedInDevice and Virtue Podcast | — | ||||||
| 1/23/25 | ![]() #84 - The Rise of Sustainable Giving - Dave Raley with Imago Consulting | Dave Raley of Imago Consulting works with nonprofit and business leaders to help them growrevenue profitably. His mission is to help nonprofits and businesses identify and understandopportunities, develop new strategies, and launch new products and initiatives.In this episode of The Ministry of Scale podcast, Chad Williams interviews Dave whoseupcoming book, The Rise of Sustainable Giving, explores how the subscription economy modelis transforming nonprofit fundraising. Raley draws parallels between the widespread adoption of subscription services (like Netflix or Spotify) and the increasing comfort with recurringdonations. He explains how organizations can tap into this trend by creating a strong recurringgiving program.Dave outlines foundational steps for nonprofits to build these programs effectively. First,nonprofits need internal focus on recurring giving—assigning someone responsible for itsgrowth. He stresses that nonprofit tech stacks, especially CRM and donation platforms, shouldsupport scalable and ongoing donor engagement. He also highlights that recurring donations,unlike one-time gifts, benefit from a well-communicated value proposition, showing donors thelong-term impact of their support. By building strong, personalized donor relationships,nonprofits can see exponential growth in recurring giving.Resources:sustainablegiving.orgDave on LinkedIn | — | ||||||
| 5/14/24 | ![]() #83 - Digital Ministry Benchmarks: Key Insights from the Ministry of Skill Podcast | Josh Kashorek is the Marketing Director at Five Q, a digital marketing agency focused on helping ministries reach more people online. With over 15 years of experience in digital strategy, analytics, and marketing, Josh brings valuable expertise to this topic. In this episode, Josh shares insights from Five Q's annual Ministry Benchmark Study, analyzing digital metrics across over 1,000 ministries. Here are some of the key topics covered: The Continued Importance of SEO Nearly 70% of ministries gained rankings for keywords in Google's top 100 search results this year, up from 50% last year. Josh emphasizes that SEO remains crucial for driving organic traffic, which comprises over half the traffic for many ministries. Website Speed Impacts User Engagement While ministry websites showed modest improvements in PageSpeed scores, Josh notes there is still plenty of room for optimization – especially on mobile devices. Faster websites lead to better user engagement and reduced bounce rates. Social Media Integration Trends 83% of ministries did not list any social media channels on their websites, choosing instead to drive traffic back to their owned properties. Among those promoting social, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube were the top channels utilized. Follower Growth Insights The median number of Facebook and Instagram followers grew year-over-year across ministries studied, while Twitter and YouTube follower counts shrank slightly. Realistic Posting Frequencies Despite advice to post daily, the median number of monthly posts was 16 on Facebook, 13 on Instagram, and lower on Twitter and YouTube – highlighting the content creation challenges many ministries face. The full benchmark study is available for free download, and ministries can request a personalized scorecard and strategy consultation from Five Q. Listen to the entire Ministry of Skill podcast episode for more valuable digital marketing insights and to learn how you can better evaluate and improve your online impact. | — | ||||||
| 5/13/24 | ![]() #82 - Mapping the Donor Journey with Empathy with Kedron Rhodes | Kedron Rhodes, Director of Digital Experiences at Crowe LLP, has over 25 years of expertise in optimizing customer journeys. In this insightful episode, he shares a powerful framework for enhancing donor relationships through empathetic experiences. Here are some key topics covered: Why Cultivating Donor Empathy is Crucial Kedron emphasizes the importance of stepping outside your own perspective to truly understand how donors feel at each touchpoint. He provides examples of how changing expectations can create mismatched experiences over time. Building an Empathy Map for Your Donor Persona Kedron guides listeners through developing a relatable donor persona by mapping out their objectives, frustrations, influences, and behaviors. This lays the groundwork for evaluating the journey through their lens. Auditing the Full Donor Journey Using the persona, Kedron demonstrates how to document every interaction from initial awareness through consideration, donation, support, and even discontinuation. The goal? Identify pain points where the actual experience falls short of the donor's expectations. Prioritizing Seamless Donation Experiences Kedron stresses the importance of minimizing friction during the crucial donation process when the donor is at their "aspirational high" and most motivated to give. Never Neglecting the Discontinuation Phase While often overlooked, Kedron explains why mapping the discontinuation journey is vital for understanding departing donors and preventing negative impressions. Through hands-on activities and real-world examples, this episode equips you with a comprehensive journey-mapping approach to continually optimize your donor's experience through an empathetic lens. Listen to the full episode for all the insights, templates, and group exercises around this transformative donor-centric methodology. | — | ||||||
| 5/9/24 | ![]() #81 - Embracing the "Christitunity" of AI with Josh Kashorek | Josh Kashorek is the Director of Marketing at Five Q, a platform helping organizations leverage no-code tools and automation. His creative mindset and technical skills converge in an insightful perspective on how ministries can steward AI for greater impact. In this thought-provoking episode, Josh shares: The Existential Crisis Inspiring His AI Experiments Josh opens by recounting the "minor existential crisis" sparked by a report predicting that up to 70% of work activities could be automated by 2030. As someone in marketing/communications, he wondered if his skills were becoming obsolete. This led him to dive into exploring AI capabilities hands-on. Overcoming AI Content Creation Challenges While tools like ChatGPT can generate passable content, Josh outlines key hurdles like factual inaccuracies, lack of unique voice/opinion, and generic sameness across outputs. His solution: provide contextual guardrails by inputting your ministry's real content to infuse your distinct voice and brand. A Replicable Framework for Automating Workflows Josh walks through his code-enabled workflow for rapidly generating branded social media visuals with compelling quotes from source material. What manually took 15 minutes was automated in a mind-blowing 3 seconds! He encourages ministries to analyze repeatable tasks for automation potential. Embracing Joy over Fear in Kingdom Stewardship Drawing inspiration from the Parable of the Talents, Josh challenges listeners to not cower under the "weight of stewardship" amid radical changes like AI. Instead, he cheers embracing your God-given role and responsibility with joy, trusting your ministry is part of God's plan. Whether providing a basic AI content creation demo or translating a biblical narrative, Josh casts a vision for faithfully experimenting with these emerging tools. His parting charge? Use AI as a megaphone to amplify your ministry's unique voice and mission, not replace it. Don't miss this creative thinker's perspective on facing technological disruption as a "Christitunity" to invest the Master's resources for greater Kingdom impact. | — | ||||||
| 5/7/24 | ![]() #80 - AI Innovations Changing the Game for Churches with Josh Burnett of Church.tech | Josh Burnett is the founder of Church.tech, an AI-powered platform helping churches streamline operations and engage people more effectively. Drawing from his background in ministry and entrepreneurship, Josh brings a unique perspective on leveraging technology for greater kingdom impact. In this insightful episode, he shares:How AI Transcribes, Summarizes and Generates Discussion ContentOne of Church.tech's core features is the ability to upload sermon videos and instantly generate transcripts, summaries, discussion questions and more using advanced AI models. Josh walks through a live demo showing how churches can quickly create robust small group materials and content resources from their weekly messages.The Power of Unified Messaging Across MinistriesJosh describes the vision of enabling churches to develop a synchronized discipleship strategy with unified teaching flowing from the pulpit all the way down to kids' ministry. AI-generated age-appropriate lessons and parent guides ensure families are receiving the same biblical truths packaged for every age level.Practical Applications for Sermon Illustrations and VisualsThe platform's "Playground" feature allows pastors to interact with the AI by asking it to generate compelling illustrations, social media post ideas, decoration themes and more - all aligned with the main sermon concept. Josh shares how this creative capacity stretches the imaginative potential.Upcoming AI Innovations on the RoadmapLooking ahead, Josh previews several groundbreaking products in development at Church.tech including an "ethical AI co-pilot" for augmenting sermon writing, a social media automation tool trained on a church's voice, and workflow features to streamline operations.Whether exploring the live product demo or dreaming about future AI capabilities, this episode highlights the powerful ways Church.tech is empowering ministries to increase efficiency and impact through intelligent technology.Don't miss Josh's passion for helping churches spend less time on logistics and more time making disciples! Listen to the full episode for a glimpse of the AI-powered future awaiting the church. | — | ||||||
| 4/30/24 | ![]() #78 - How to Turn Your Sermons into Engaging Social Media Content with Corey Alderin | Corey Alderin is the founder of Sermon Shots, a platform that helps churches transform their full sermons into popular short-form video content for Instagram Reels, Facebook Reels, TikTok, and YouTube Shorts. In this hands-on workshop, Corey shares his expertise on leveraging AI to create thumb-stopping, engaging clips that reach people where they are consuming content. Why Vertical Video Content Matters Now More Than Ever Corey highlights the seismic shift happening in social media, where follower count doesn't determine who sees your content. The AI algorithms analyze each video's content and match it with the right audience members most likely to engage. This unlocks massive reach potential even for ministries with small followings. 5 Keys to Creating Viral-Worthy Vertical Clips 1. Captions - With most viewing on mute, having captions is crucial 2. Keep It Brief - Shorter videos perform better to sustain engagement 3. Grab Attention Early - Use a provocative hook in the first 2-5 seconds 4. Leverage Music - Adding the right music can invoke desired emotions 5. Highlight Faces - Close-up shots of faces are proven attention drivers Walk-Through: Turning a Sermon into Multiple Engaging Clips In the live demo, Corey shows exactly how the Sermon Shots platform utilizes AI to streamline the clip creation process: 1. Upload your long-form video content 2. Select from pre-built appealing designs and styles 3. Let the AI suggest top moments or identify them by keyword 4. Fine-tune clips with text, branding, zooming, music and more 5. Preview clips on each platform to optimize appearance 6. Download ready-to-post video clips in a fraction of the normal time The Power of AI to Multiply Your Content's ReachWhat used to take hours can now be done rapidly thanks to AI capabilities like speech-to-text, facial detection, and identifying engaging moments. This allows ministries to repurpose one sermon into a stream of natively formatted videos perfectly suited for each social platform. Corey's innovative approach combines AI's efficiency with human curation to create ultra-engaging content that expands your ministry's reach and impact like never before. For a first-hand look at this game-changing process, listen to Corey's full instructive workshop now! | — | ||||||
| 4/25/24 | ![]() #77 - Personalized Engagement: The Key to Spiritual Transformation with Arnie Cole | Arnie Cole is a social scientist and researcher at Back to the Bible, who has studied the spiritual lives of over 1.5 million people over the past 20 years. In this insightful episode, he challenges ministries to truly understand the spiritual state of the people they serve in order to help move them closer to Jesus.The Importance of Asking "How Are You Doing Spiritually?"Through examples from his own family's equestrian ministry, Arnie highlights how children are remarkably open about their spiritual struggles, but something happens as they become adults and stop sharing. He argues it is critical for ministries to directly ask people how they are doing spiritually.Introducing the Personalized Engagement Prioritization ModelArnie presents a 25-dimensional model that identifies 17 trillion potential spiritual data points for where a person could be in their walk. The methodology includes:1. The "Death Question" to assess their salvation2. Their level of Bible engagement, which predicts spiritual trajectory3. Prioritizing people into 4 categories: Need for Evangelism, Discipleship, Activation, or Mature BelieverMeasuring Spiritual Transformation and Discipleship ImpactThe critical metric is whether people are engaging the Bible regularly, which research shows leads to transformed lives. Arnie also emphasizes the need to measure if people are actively discipling others.Addressing the "Hard Issues" People FaceThe model accounts for the real spiritual struggles people face like anger, anxiety, pornography use, gender identity issues, and more. Arnie laments that many ministries are unwilling to even ask about these "hard" areas people need help with.A Free Resource to Increase Ministry EffectivenessArnie's team offers ministries a free scientific study and impact assessment to truly understand the spiritual state of the people they serve. The goal is to equip ministries to more effectively help people find and follow Jesus.This is a powerful framework for personalizing ministry engagement in a way that leads to real spiritual transformation. To learn more about implementing this model, be sure to listen to Arnie's full engaging and eye-opening presentation! | — | ||||||
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