
The Dental CEO Podcast
Welcome to the Dental CEO® Podcast — where Dr. Scott Leune applies proven business strategies from leading entrepreneurs and CEOs to the complexities of dental practice ownership.In each episode, Dr. Leune dives into can...
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- Dale Roberts1 ep
- Nick Roberts1 ep
- Mo Shirin1 ep
Also: Justin Warcup, Dr. Stamatis Kouniaris, Katarina, Ophir Tanz, Dr. Omar Virani
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- 🇮🇪Ireland · Entrepreneurship#1268.9K to 109K
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| 10/19/26 | How the Big Beautiful Bill Made Dental School Twice as Expensive | The rules of dental student loans just changed, and most dentists have no idea what it means for them.The One Big Beautiful Bill Act capped federal student loans at $200,000 for dental students, down from a system that previously allowed borrowers to cover the full cost of attendance. For dental schools that cost $600,000 to $1,000,000 to attend, that means the gap now has to be filled with private loans at rates as high as 18%, requiring co-signers and offering zero forgiveness options. In practical terms, the Big Beautiful Bill just made dental school twice as expensive for most incoming students.In this episode, Scott Leune sits down with Dan Rooker, founder of Grad Loan Advice and one of the country's few Certified Student Loan Professionals, to break down exactly what changed and what every current dentist and dental student needs to know.Dan and Scott cover:Why the $200,000 federal loan cap will change the financial trajectory of every dentist graduating from 2026 forwardThe difference between federal and private loans and why private loans are now the biggest debt burdenThe Repayment Assistance Program strategy that can reduce your first-year payment to $10 per monthHow to use tax filing timing to eliminate an entire year of interest accrualWhy forgiveness exists on federal loans but not private, and what that means for your career decisionsThe specific circumstances where filing married-filing-separately can save borrowers thousandsPublic Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) opportunities most dentists never considerThe one-time-only 1% autopay discount deadline that could save $6,000+ on a $600K loanWhy every new dentist needs a student loan consultant on their team alongside their CPA and financial plannerWhether you're a dental student, a new graduate carrying debt, or a practice owner still working through your own loans, this episode delivers the tactical, timely information most dentists never get.Learn more about Dan Rooker and Grad Loan Advice: gradloanadvice.comSpecial offer for Dental CEO Podcast listeners: Dan is extending a discounted rate on his one-hour student loan consultation for anyone who mentions the show.🎧 Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: dentalceopodcast.com | 36m 40s | ||||||
| 10/12/26 | Your Equity Could Be Worthless: What to Know Before Selling to a DSO | Selling your dental practice to a DSO? Some dentists who took part of their payout in DSO equity may end up with nothing to show for it.In this episode, Scott Leune sits down with Kevin Cumbus, founder and president of Tusk Practice Sales, to break down what's really happening in the DSO market today and how to protect yourself before you sell. Kevin's firm has completed about $1.5 billion in dental practice transactions over the last decade, exclusively representing dentists who are selling.Of the roughly 150 private equity-backed DSOs today, about half have stopped acquiring practices. One prominent attorney in the space believes 30–40% of them won't recover, which means the equity dentists rolled into those DSOs could be worthless.In this episode, you'll learn:What happened to the DSO market, and why lower interest rates alone won't fix itHow valuations have shifted: a $1M EBITDA practice that traded at 8–9x in 2021 is closer to 6–7x todayWhy smaller groups ($1M–$3M EBITDA) are holding their value while larger groups are penalized for riskWhat private equity looks for in a platform, and how that differs from selling to an existing DSOHow deal structures have changed, from 80% cash at close to 70/30 or 60/40 cash-to-equityThe difference between HoldCo equity and joint venture (JV) equity, and why it matters for your payoutManagement fees of 3–8% of revenue, and what they can do to your distributionsHow to keep growing and share in the upside after you sellWhy the highest offer isn't always the right oneWhether you own one practice or a growing group, this episode will help you understand your options before a DSO comes calling.⏱️ Timestamps00:00 Intro02:09 Meet Kevin Cumbus of Tusk Practice Sales04:45 What happened to the DSO market06:38 Why 30–40% of DSOs may not recover09:52 Why five-year employment agreements are now a problem11:57 DSO 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0: the rise of JV equity13:53 Valuations then vs. now16:29 How multiples change by EBITDA size18:16 Multiple arbitrage and "growing down" your multiple22:18 What private equity looks for in a platform24:23 Deal structures: private equity vs. DSO31:38 The truth about management fees37:26 Selling while still growing41:28 Choosing the right partner, not just the highest offer46:11 A message of hope for private dentists🔗 Connect with Kevin Cumbus and Tusk Practice Sales: [TUSK WEBSITE]💰 This episode is sponsored by the Private Dental Alliance, helping private dentists get DSO-level pricing on equipment, supplies, and lab fees. Text SAVINGS to 48659 to see how much you could save.🎧 Listen and subscribe: https://dentalceopodcast.comAvailable on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and Spotify. | 50m 31s | ||||||
| 10/5/26 | The Acquisition Trap: Why This Dentist Skipped Buying a Practice and Opened a Startup | Dr. Divya Patel was two years out of dental school when she made a decision most dentists take a decade to make: open her own startup instead of buying an established practice.In this episode, Scott sits down with Dr. Patel to unpack why she walked away from Toronto's acquisition market and built Pearl Dental Studio from the ground up instead. They break down the real math behind "buying a practice twice," once to acquire it, and again to actually fix it into your vision, and why that math made a startup the lower-risk path for her, not the riskier one.In this episode:Why acquiring an established practice can cost more long-term than building one from scratchWhat it actually costs to open a five-op startup in Toronto today, and how Canadian dentists access fundingHow Dr. Patel built a patient experience around comfort and quality instead of volume and insurance-driven case mixWhat it's like to bet on yourself as a young dentist, before a spouse, before kids, before "waiting until you're ready" starts costing you yearsHer 2-3 year vision for the practice, including plans for a second locationLearn more about Pearl Dental Studio: pearldentalstudio.ca | pearl.dental.studioIf you enjoyed this episode, subscribe to the Dental CEO Podcast and leave a review, it helps other dentists find these conversations.🎧 Listen now: www.dentalceopodcast.com | 47m 10s | ||||||
| 9/28/26 | Direct Mail, ChatGPT Ads & Google: What's Actually Working in Dental Marketing Right Now | ChatGPT just rolled out ads for small businesses, and dentists are already testing it, often with no idea what they're doing.In this episode, Scott Leune sits down with Bill Donato, founder of DentalMarketing.com, to break down what's actually working in dental marketing right now: ChatGPT ads, Google Ads, AI-powered SEO, and a channel most dentists have written off as outdated: direct mail.Bill has spent over a decade running marketing for dental practices across the U.S. and Canada, and he pulls back the curtain on where new opportunity actually lives versus where dentists are wasting budget.In this episode, you'll learn:Why ChatGPT ads are in their "early Google Ads" phase right now, and what that means for cost per click while the window is openThe tracking problem almost no one is talking about: why your ChatGPT campaign might show zero conversions when it's actually workingWhat a "conversion event" really is, and why setting it up correctly matters more than your ad copy or budgetWhy direct mail is quietly outperforming digital ads on a cost basis: one mail piece can cost the same as a single Google click, but reach 20 householdsThe "new mover" mail strategy top practices use to reach families before they've even started searching for a dentistWhy mailers boost your SEO and Google rankings, even when the recipient never callsHow to build a marketing strategy that layers AI-enabled SEO, Google Ads, direct mail, and ChatGPT ads instead of betting everything on one channelWhat to do differently if you're opening a new practice versus scaling an existing one, including why marketing should start 3-6 months before your doors openWhether you're evaluating a new marketing channel or auditing whether your current one is actually delivering, this episode gives you a clear, practical framework for where to invest next.Connect with Bill Donato:Website: dentalmarketing.com (free marketing analysis available)Email: [email protected]🎧 Listen now: dentalceopodcast.com🔔 Subscribe so you never miss an episode: dentalceopodcast.com | 41m 21s | ||||||
| 9/21/26 | Retire Twice: Why Waiting Until 65 Is the Worst Retirement Plan for Dentists (Part 2) | Last week's episode challenged the traditional path to retirement. This week, Scott Leune gets tactical: what should you actually be doing in dentistry, right now, at your specific age, to make that philosophy real?In Part 2 of this series, Scott walks through the exact practice models that align with the semi-retire-twice framework, breaking down what each decade of a dental career should look like and why.Scott breaks down:Why age 26 to 35 should be about high income and low costs, and why becoming a practice owner as fast as possible is the single biggest lever for building wealth in this decadeWhy the highest-earning associates usually make even better-earning owners, and why staying an associate too long can quietly cap your ceilingTwo specific ways to structure a practice so you can drop to part-time in your late 30s and 40s without losing income, including dropping insurance plans for fee-for-service and building a "big case only" scheduleHow replacing yourself with associates the right way can get your personal overhead down to 10%, letting you take home the majority of what you produce on just one clinical day a weekWhy age 46 to 65 can become your highest-earning, highest-impact decade, and how adding practices during this phase builds both income and a business worth sellingWhat it actually looks like to reach 65 without burnout, with a healthy family, a nest egg, and a new chapter built around passion instead of retirementIf you've ever wondered whether you're in the right decade doing the right things, or whether you need a complete reset, this episode gives you the specific dental practice models to actually make the shift.🎧 Listen and subscribe: https://dentalceopodcast.com | 54m 41s | ||||||
| 9/14/26 | Retire Twice: Why Waiting Until 65 Is the Worst Retirement Plan for Dentists (Part 1) | What if the traditional retirement plan, work hard for 40 years and finally retire at 65, is actually the reason so many dentists end up burned out, broke on experiences, and full of regret?In Part 1 of this two-part series, Scott Leune revisits a post he wrote 16 years ago that challenged everything he'd been taught about building wealth and retiring. Instead of one big retirement at the end of a career, Scott lays out a philosophy of semi-retiring twice: once during the years your kids need you most, and again once you've built enough wealth to slow down for good.Scott breaks down:Why the traditional "work hard, save, retire at 65" path leads to the most common regrets he's heard from wealthy people, again and againThe four life phases (18-25, 26-35, 36-45, 46-65) and what your income, savings, and schedule should look like in each oneWhy your 20s and early 30s should be about high income and low costs, not lifestyle upgradesHow to structure your practice so you can drop to two or three days a week during the years your family needs you mostWhy your late 40s through 60s can become your highest-earning, highest-impact years, if you've set yourself up correctlyHow this philosophy applies directly to practice ownership, associateships, and the timing of buying, building, or selling a practiceThis episode lays the groundwork for a bigger conversation. In Part 2, Scott will get tactical, walking through the specific dental practice models that make semi-retiring twice actually possible at each stage of your career.If you've ever felt like the traditional path to retirement doesn't match the life you actually want to live, this episode will change how you think about your career, your family, and your money. | 35m 09s | ||||||
| 9/7/26 | dental suppliesequipment pricing+3 | Dale RobertsNick Roberts | DHPSchein+3 | — | dental equipmentpricing+5 | — | 36m 37s | ||
| 8/31/26 | full arch dental careentrepreneurship+4 | Mo Shirin | Truly Dental | DublinTexas+3 | full arch DSOdental implants+5 | — | 38m 52s | ||
| 8/24/26 | pediatric dentistryairway dentistry+3 | Justin Warcup | BRĒTH Method | Dallas-Fort Worth | pediatric dentistryairway dentistry+5 | — | 41m 05s | ||
| 8/17/26 | startup vs. acquisition decisionsfinancing and lending strategy+3 | Dr. Stamatis KouniarisKatarina | Ilios Dentaire | Canada | dental startuppractice ownership+5 | — | 54m 41s | ||
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| 8/10/26 | dentistrycareer advice+3 | — | — | — | dentistsassociateship+3 | — | 55m 15s | ||
| 8/3/26 | AI in dentistrydental practice management+3 | Ophir Tanz | Pearl | — | AIdental practice+5 | — | 51m 33s | ||
| 7/27/26 | debt recoverydental practice management+3 | Dr. Omar Virani | — | Vancouver, Canada | debtdental practice+5 | — | 56m 05s | ||
| 7/20/26 | AI in dental practicevirtual teams+5 | — | Dental Practice | — | AI copilotsdental practice support+5 | — | 44m 40s | ||
| 7/13/26 | associate productiondental management+3 | — | — | — | associate dentistsproduction metrics+3 | — | 35m 15s | ||
| 7/6/26 | profit and loss statementsEBITDA+4 | — | The Dental CEO Podcast | — | profitloss+5 | — | 40m 39s | ||
| 6/29/26 | How Selling to a DSO Costs Dentists Millions (Scott Breaks Down a Real Offer) | A dentist got an unsolicited $9.8M offer to sell his practice — and on paper it looked incredible. So why is walking away the smarter move? Scott Leune breaks down the real offer line by line and runs the actual math, exposing the traps most dentists never see: the cash up front, the "rollover equity," the multi-year stay requirement that quietly erases years of owner profit, and the "hopium" of future multiples that rarely pay out. He shows how selling now nets roughly $9.4M while transitioning out first nets up to $14M+, and what to do instead if your practice is struggling. Whether you plan to buy, sell, or advise someone who will, this could save you millions. Subscribe for new episodes weekly. | 44m 50s | ||||||
| 6/22/26 | The Husband-and-Wife Dentists Reinventing Themselves at 61 | After 33 years of marriage and 33 years practicing side by side in 700 square feet, Dr. Elisa Mello and Dr. Ramin Tabib could have coasted to the finish line. Instead, at 61, they bet on themselves again and moved into a 2,500 square foot space built around a brand they just trademarked: The Smile Code. Scott Leune sits down with the New York City couple to talk about holding the line on fee-for-service when the pressure to take insurance felt relentless, what it really takes to work with your spouse for three decades without losing your marriage, and why the heart of a great practice is not the marketing, it is being able to say clearly who you are before you ever try to sell it. If you have ever wondered whether it is too late to reinvent your career, whether you could practice without insurance, or how to build a brand the world actually responds to, this conversation is for you. | 53m 13s | ||||||
| 6/15/26 | Don't Take Startup Advice from a Lucky Dentist | There is a lot of bad location advice in dentistry. A dentist goes on a podcast, says demographics do not matter because they opened in a weak market and made it work, and suddenly "build it and they'll come" sounds like a strategy. It is not. It is luck, and as Scott Leune puts it, a blind man can hit a home run, but that does not mean the rest of us should swing blindfolded. On this episode of the Dental CEO Podcast, Scott sits down with Kent Miller, founder of Dentagraphics, to make the case for trusting the data instead of Dr. Facebook and one-off success stories. They break down what demographics actually tell you about a location, why the right market depends on the kind of dentistry you want to do, and how population, income, age, and competition take the risk out of opening or relocating a practice. The dentists bragging online about beating the odds are the exception, not the playbook. If you want a real shot at 2 million in collections with a healthy overhead, trust the data, not a hunch and not a lucky stranger on the internet. | 40m 40s | ||||||
| 6/8/26 | 222 Patients in Month One: Inside a Dental Startup That's Booked Out Two Months | Two married dentists. One startup. 222 new patients in their first full month. On this episode of The Dental CEO Podcast, Dr. Scott Leune sits down with Drs. Alex Hill and Kristina Slavik of Hill Dental Studio to break down exactly how they built the demand, why they're already booked out two months, and what Scott says they need to do right now to handle the success before it crushes them. | 53m 12s | ||||||
| 6/1/26 | Dental CEO Podcast #66 - Your Website Is No Longer Your Biggest Marketing Asset | In this episode of The Dental CEO Podcast, Scott Leune is joined by Bill Donato, Founder of DentalMarketing.com, to break down why your website is no longer the biggest driver of new patient calls. As patient search habits change, Google My Business, local search visibility, reviews, hyperlocal content, and real-time search queries are becoming more important than ever. Scott and Bill explain what dental practice owners need to understand about the new rules of dental SEO and how practices can improve visibility, compete locally, and generate more new patient opportunities. | 40m 23s | ||||||
| 5/25/26 | Dental CEO Podcast #65 - The Instagram Post Heard Round the World...of Dentistry | A single Instagram post from Dr. Scott Leune sparked major conversation across the dental world, raising a question many dentists are thinking but few are saying out loud: is becoming a dentist still financially worth it? In this episode of The Dental CEO Podcast, Scott breaks down the post, the backlash, and the numbers behind the debate, including income, debt, delayed earning years, and why business ownership may matter more than ever. | 20m 15s | ||||||
| 5/18/26 | Dental CEO Podcast #64 - The Future of Dentistry | In this episode of The Dental CEO Podcast, Dr. Scott Leune breaks down how dentistry is moving toward a new practice model built around automation, simplified staffing, patient hosts, presentation stations, and more efficient systems. He explains why traditional front office roles may become less necessary, how clinical team members could take on a more complete patient experience role, and how owners may be able to reduce chaos, improve consistency, and manage the practice with fewer bottlenecks. Scott also discusses how a personal assistant can help protect the owner’s time, support implementation, and create more flexibility in both business and life. This episode challenges dental practice owners to rethink staffing, facility design, patient flow, leadership, and what it may take to build a practice that is easier to run, easier to manage, and more profitable. | 29m 53s | ||||||
| 5/11/26 | Dental CEO Podcast #63 - PPO Fees Are Killing Private Dentistry | PPO plans are putting intense financial pressure on private dental practices through low reimbursements, high write-offs, stagnant fees, and rising operating costs. In this episode of The Dental CEO Podcast, Scott Leune sits down with Natalie Soda of PPO Profits to expose how shared networks and hidden fee schedules can force dentists to produce more while collecting less. They also discuss how practices can fight back by renegotiating fees, untangling insurance contracts, and strengthening revenue cycle management. | 42m 25s | ||||||
| 5/4/26 | Dental CEO Podcast #62 - What It’s Like Building a Startup Right Out of Dental School | What does it actually look like to go straight from dental school into building your own practice? In this episode, Scott Leune sits down with Dr. Emily Magee just five weeks into opening her startup to walk through her journey from associate to owner. She shares how she made the decision to start early, secured financing, built out her office, and what the first few weeks of ownership really feel like. From hiring and training a team to managing patient flow and stepping into a leadership role, this is a real-time look at the pressure, uncertainty, and early wins that come with building a practice from scratch. | 47m 06s | ||||||
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Peaked at #126 in Ireland, currently #126 in Ireland.
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| Ireland | — | #126 | #126 | — |
| RO | — | #177 | #177 | — |
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