The MSP Zone

Most MSPs are overlooking a bigger Google Workspace opportunity than they realize. Charles Weaver and Dan Taylor of Apps EDU break down why Google is not a niche side platform, but a real managed services market hiding in plain sight for schools, nonprofits, startups, professional services firms, and globally distributed businesses. Dan built Apps EDU after moving from enterprise consulting and Microsoft-heavy environments into the Google world. He shares what that shift taught him about support, security, migrations, and the business model behind Google Workspace. He also explains why his team built Workspace Audit, a continuous scanning tool designed to solve the biggest flaw in point-in-time security audits: they go stale fast. You'll discover: Why Google Workspace adoption is far stronger than most MSPs assume, especially in education and among startups The real market numbers behind Google vs. Microsoft across schools, SMBs, and enterprise Why Google Workspace support can be simpler than Microsoft 365, with fewer moving parts and less tool sprawl How MSPs can monetize Google through support agreements, migrations, security audits, backups, and third-party apps Why Chrome browser management, Chromebooks, and identity controls matter more than many MSPs realize Charles and Dan also tackle the practical questions MSPs ask most: Do you need an RMM? Can you keep your single pane of glass? What tools actually carry over from a Microsoft-centric stack? The answer is yes, often more than you think. Dan explains how MSPs can layer Google into an existing service model without starting from scratch, and why the real risk is not complexity. It is dismissing qualified Google prospects before you understand the ecosystem. This conversation is especially valuable if you support SMBs, schools, or vertical markets like legal, dental, finance, or education and want to expand your serviceable market without adding unnecessary overhead. If you've ever passed on a prospect because they used Google Workspace, this episode shows why that decision may be costing you more than you know. Dan Taylor is the founder of Apps EDU, a Google Workspace-focused MSP serving schools and businesses around the world. His team also built Workspace Audit, a multi-tenant security and optimization platform for Google environments. If you want a clearer view of how to support, secure, and profit from the Google ecosystem, this episode is essential listening.

Unlock the secrets to MSP success in 2026 with insights from industry veterans Rob Scott and Andy Runyan. Discover why maturity, beyond size or revenue, is your ultimate competitive edge in an evolving cyber threat landscape. This episode examines how MSPs are transforming into risk management powerhouses by using legal, operational, and insurance strategies to protect themselves and their clients. Rob Scott from Monjur explains why legal protections and smart contract design are fundamental to risk mitigation. He explores common misconceptions around cyber insurance denials and highlights how comprehensive policies, tailored contracts, and proactive documentation help mature MSPs reduce litigation risk and build client confidence. Andy Runyan from UKON offers a behind-the-scenes look at how insurance, compliance, and technology must align, especially as AI and shadow IT accelerate risk. He points out that MSPs using AI internally may be ahead of the curve, but they must ensure their contracts and policies evolve to cover new vulnerabilities. You’ll discover: Why size doesn’t determine maturity, and how operational discipline and legal rigor matter more. How to structure contracts that clearly define responsibilities and limit MSP liability. The truth about cyber insurance claim denials versus paid claims, and how to optimize coverage. The emerging role of AI and shadow IT, and how MSPs can proactively manage these risks. Practical steps to integrate legal, insurance, and certification pillars for true MSP maturity. Why does this matter? Because in today’s landscape, a misstep can cost thousands, or even put you out of business. MSPs who master risk management and invest in operational excellence build resilience, command higher valuations, and avoid costly disputes. Whether you’re an MSP owner, a cybersecurity professional, or an insurance strategist, this episode equips you with practical ideas to elevate your practice. Get ahead of the curve, embrace maturity, protect your enterprise, and unlock new growth opportunities. Guest Credibility: Rob Scott is a seasoned legal expert in MSP contract law, leading Monjur’s legal and risk advisory practice. Andy Runyan is Head of UKON, specializing in MSP insurance solutions and operational risk management, and is known for guiding MSPs toward comprehensive cyber risk strategies. Don’t miss this essential conversation. Your MSP’s future depends on it. Tune in now.

Most MSPs are asking: Is the future of cybersecurity compliance fundamentally changing — or just on pause? This episode uncovers what the recent suspension of Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC) Phase 2 really means for defense contractors, MSPs, and the broader industry.Charles Weaver dives deep into the Department of War’s groundbreaking shift: suspending the traditional, burdensome verification process in favor of a more scalable, resilient, and innovation-friendly approach called ATS. He reveals how this pause isn’t a sign of weakness but a catalyst for smarter, more effective cybersecurity strategies that balance security and opportunity.You’ll discover:- The real reason behind the CMMC Phase 2 suspension and what the Department of War’s ATS framework aims to accomplish- Why the core issue with CMMC was never the controls — but the flaws in its testing and assessment methodology- How MSPs can turn this uncertainty into a competitive advantage by focusing on operational maturity, continuous assurance, and scalable security practices- Practical steps for organizations to maintain compliance, strengthen cybersecurity hygiene, and prepare for a future framework rooted in efficiency and effectivenessStaying locked into outdated certification methods risks leaving your organization vulnerable — but understanding the shift reveals a massive opportunity for innovation and resilience. The government’s reevaluation isn’t a retreat; it’s an invitation to rethink how we validate cybersecurity success.Whether you’re an MSP, a defense contractor, or a cybersecurity leader, this episode equips you with the clarity and guidance to navigate these changes with confidence. Continue your security journey, invest in operational excellence, and stay ahead of the evolving compliance landscape, the future is being rewritten, and this episode shows you exactly how to lead it.Guest credibility: Charles Weaver is the founder of MSP Alliance, a pioneer in advocating for scalable, effective cybersecurity solutions for MSPs and critical infrastructure sectors, with decades of experience shaping industry standards and policies.Perfect for: MSPs, defense industry professionals, cybersecurity executives, and policy influencers committed to smarter, less bureaucratic security measures. Don’t miss this insights-packed discussion on what’s next for cybersecurity compliance and how your organization can thrive in the new era.Stay tuned for actionable strategies that will help you turn regulatory uncertainty into your biggest advantage. Hit play now and be part of the transformation.

In this episode, Charles delves into the critical importance of having a clear and compelling message for managed service providers (MSPs). He emphasizes that without a well-defined message, even the best sales tactics can fall short. Charles shares practical steps for MSPs to develop a strong messaging framework that resonates with business decision-makers, ultimately driving revenue and growth. Tune in to learn how to transform your MSP's message from focusing on features to highlighting impactful business outcomes.