The CMO Podcast

The role of the CMO is evolving. Increasingly, it is becoming a pathway to the CEO's office.Jim's guest this week, Melissa Grady Dias, first joined the show in 2020 as Global Chief Marketing Officer of Cadillac, where she helped transform one of America's most iconic brands into the leading luxury EV brand while navigating a global pandemic and unprecedented industry disruption.Now she has entered an entirely new chapter. Melissa recently became CEO of Measured Wellness, a healthcare company focused on preventative care, wearable technology, AI powered health insights, and what she calls "care between appointments." It is a model built around the 99 percent of health that happens outside the doctor's office. The company was founded in San Diego by Dr. Michael Kurisu, who specializes in Family and Integrative Medicine.Melissa is a leader who thrives when navigating transformation, and she simply likes building things. Those are her words. At Cadillac, that meant helping consumers rethink mobility, luxury, and electrification. At Measured Wellness, it means helping people rethink healthcare itself by moving from reactive care to proactive wellness, from occasional doctor visits to continuous engagement, and from treating illness to creating the conditions for long term health.Tune in for a conversation about leadership, reinvention, wellness, and the growing influence of marketers in shaping the future of business.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We’re living through one of the biggest shifts in the internet since it began: a move from building content for people to building content for machines, on behalf of people. On this week’s episode, Jim Stengel is joined by James Cadwallader, Co-Founder and CEO of Profound, and Daniel Shin Un Kang, Head of Organic and Agentic Search at Expedia, for a thoughtful, practical conversation about AI search, answer engines, and what this shift means for the future of marketing.James founded Profound in 2024, raising $60 million and earning recognition from Redpoint Ventures as one of the most promising private AI companies shaping applied artificial intelligence. Today, Profound works with brands like US Bank, Chime, Expedia, and DocuSign to help them navigate the transition from traditional search to a world of answer engines, agents, and AI-led experiences.After building companies and investing in high-growth technology businesses, Daniel moved from the venture world into operating at global scale. He now leads Organic and Agentic Search at Expedia, where he’s helping redefine how one of the world’s largest travel platforms shows up in AI-powered search and discovery.Together, James and Daniel unpack how brands actually appear inside AI systems like ChatGPT and Gemini, why traditional SEO metrics no longer tell the whole story, and how CMOs should rethink visibility, content, and measurement in an AI-driven world.This episode offers a rare look at AI search from both sides of the table: the platform builder shaping the category and the operator putting it to work inside a performance-driven global brand. If you’re a CMO wondering what to focus on now, this conversation is a strong place to start.—This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

With the NFL season in full swing and the Super Bowl just weeks away, Jim sits down with Tim Ellis, Chief Marketing Officer of the National Football League, for a timely conversation about leading one of the most powerful brands in the world. Recorded live at the ANA Masters of Marketing in Orlando, this episode explores how the NFL continues to evolve beyond the game itself into a cultural force that brings people together. Since joining the league in 2018, Tim has helped reshape how the NFL shows up — making it more human, more inclusive, and more connected to fans across generations and communities.Tune in for a conversation around creativity, courage, and what it takes to steward a brand that means so much to so many.---Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/almPromo Code for $500 of ticket prices: ALMCMOPOD26---The CMO Podcast is a vYve Production.This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte, TransUnion and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

At CES 2026, the conversation around AI often swings between hype and fear — but for marketers the real question is far more grounded: How do you scale intelligence, creativity, and performance without losing the human connection that brands are built on?In this bonus episode of The CMO Podcast, recorded live on the C Space stage at CES, Jim sits down with Yannick Bolloré, Chairman and CEO of Havas — one of the world’s largest global communications groups — to explore exactly that.Yannick and Jim explore how Havas is navigating one of the biggest transformations our industry has ever faced: embedding AI deeply into the organization while keeping human creativity, judgment, and empathy at the center. Plus, Yannick also shares new capabilities Havas introduced at CES, including its global large language model portal, AVA — a secure enterprise AI solution designed to reinforce human-led creativity and decision-making while connecting advanced AI models across the Havas network. Read the full Havas press release on AVA and their human‑led AI vision at CES 2026And for an inside look at the keynote from the C Space stage, including thoughts on the convergence of AI and human creativity, check out the video here: Watch the Havas keynote on AI and creativity from CES 2026This is also a first for our podcast — bringing you right into the heart of CES, as we look toward an innovation-rich year ahead.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Some leaders talk about the power of creativity, and a select few leaders build a career proving it. Jim's guest this week is one of those. Andrew Robertson is the long-time leader of BBDO Worldwide, one of the most awarded and effective creative advertising  networks in the world. He served as President and CEO from 2004 to 2024 before stepping into his current role as Chairman. During his tenure, BBDO was named Network of the Year at Cannes Lions a record seven times and was crowned Network of the Decade in 2020.Today, as Chairman of BBDO Worldwide and Chairman Emeritus of the Ad Council, Andrew is focused on mentoring the next generation of creative leaders and helping brands harness creativity for real business growth. In 2022, Andrew was inducted into the American Advertising Federation Hall of Fame. In 2025, he added a new chapter to his legacy as a bestselling author with his book “The Creative Shift: How to Power Up Your Organization by Making Space for New Ideas.”So tune in for a conversation with a leader who believes that creativity is not an occasional flash of inspiration but a way of operating inside any organization.  And from the entire team at the show, we wish you all a very Happy New Year!---Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/almPromo Code for $500 of ticket prices: ALMCMOPOD26---This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte, TransUnion and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.